PODCAST: How Every Law Enforcement Officer can Develop Mental Toughness with Mitchell R. Tucker | TIR 057
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Meet this Weeks Guest: Mitchell Tucker
Mitchell R Tucker holds a lot of titles very proudly. Christian, husband, dad, American, business owner and author are some. He was prior law enforcement where he served as a Deputy Sheriff for 11 years. He has worked patrol and as a robbery detective. He now owns a private security firm N-Tact Security in Florida. He has authored an Amazon best seller "Mentally Tough in a weak society" and is currently working on his second book now, titled: "The Peaceful Savage."
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00:00:04:19 - 00:00:07:11
Wayne Mulder
Welcome
00:00:10:18 - 00:00:30:14
Wayne Mulder
Welcome, my friend, to the On the Blue Line podcast with Wayne Mulder. And I'm your host, Wayne Mulder. This is Law Enforcement podcast, where we discuss topics that will empower you on and off the job. Maybe you're tired, you're frustrated, you feel overworked, may you're struggling to balance your work and own life demands. Or maybe you simply need some encouragement.
00:00:30:24 - 00:00:51:12
Wayne Mulder
Then you have come to the right place. This is the 154th episode of the podcast, and on today's podcast you're going to learn what mental toughness is and how to employ it, what it means to be a peaceful savage. And the one thing we can do that will change the world. So if you're just finding us, we have two weekly episodes of the podcast.
00:00:52:02 - 00:01:17:18
Wayne Mulder
This one that you're watching is called The Interview Room. And then here we sit down with a different guests from all different walks of life, and we discuss something that hopefully is going to be beneficial for your personal or professional life. And the other podcast is Morning Roll Call. And in there it comes out on Mondays and you and I just sit down typically with a cup of coffee and we discuss the news, recent events, law enforcement trends and a variety of other topics that hopefully is going to give you something that you can consider for the week ahead.
00:01:18:09 - 00:01:36:11
Wayne Mulder
Know that both shows release on video, they're actually made primarily for video and are available on YouTube and Rumble. And of course, they're available in audio everywhere you stream your podcast. And the easy way to see everything that is going on is to go to on the blue line dot com. So let me tell you about this week's guest Mitchell.
00:01:36:11 - 00:01:55:11
Wayne Mulder
R. Tucker is who joins me. He has a lot of titles. He is proudly Christian husband, dad, American business owner and author are just some of those titles that he holds. He was prior law enforcement where he served as a deputy for 11 years. And he has worked patrol and he worked as a robbery detective as well, which we get into.
00:01:55:11 - 00:02:16:08
Wayne Mulder
And he talks about in this podcast. He owns a private security firm now called Intact Security in the state of Florida. And he has authored an Amazon bestseller called Mentally Tough in a Weak Society. And he's currently working on his second book that hopefully will be out any day now. And that is the peaceful savage we get into what a peaceful savage is.
00:02:16:08 - 00:02:35:06
Wayne Mulder
And then we also talk about the peaceful savage oath, which I'm going to have you listen to. And then I want you to go to his website and check that out. At some point here, either before or after the podcast. So without taking any more time, let's get to this week's guest, Mitchell Tucker. Well, Mitchell, thank you for joining us today.
00:02:35:06 - 00:02:36:00
Wayne Mulder
Welcome to the show.
00:02:36:10 - 00:02:38:04
Mitchell R. Tucker
Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.
00:02:38:11 - 00:02:44:07
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this opportunity. I think we've got some great things that we can discuss that's going to be very beneficial to the listener.
00:02:44:16 - 00:02:45:06
Mitchell R. Tucker
Absolutely.
00:02:45:16 - 00:02:51:03
Wayne Mulder
Let me ask you, I always begin with my little get to know your questions and I've got to ask coffee or tea.
00:02:51:03 - 00:02:54:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
Mitchell Oh, coffee.
00:02:54:10 - 00:02:59:03
Wayne Mulder
All right. There was enough hesitancy there that I almost have to think sometimes it's tea.
00:02:59:13 - 00:03:10:17
Mitchell R. Tucker
I love tea. I love it. But yeah, I do love tea. But you know what? I. I only like it when it's ridiculously sweet, so I try to stay away from it.
00:03:10:24 - 00:03:12:08
Wayne Mulder
A true Southerner.
00:03:12:08 - 00:03:16:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, that's right. I went up north to visit family. I'm like, This isn't D. What is it.
00:03:16:19 - 00:03:22:21
Wayne Mulder
Exactly? Well, I'm from northern Indiana myself, so yeah, it's a it's a different environment when you order tea in the north.
00:03:23:04 - 00:03:23:16
Mitchell R. Tucker
That's right.
00:03:24:09 - 00:03:31:23
Wayne Mulder
So do you have a favorite place to have that drink, Like that spot that you just relax and enjoy that you're morning and get ready for the day?
00:03:31:23 - 00:03:48:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
Well, we just bought our dream property in Central Florida on a lake, a beautiful lake. We're building a home and there's nothing better than standing outside watching the lake in the morning, drinking a cup of coffee. That's. It's a beautiful view. I'm blessed.
00:03:48:09 - 00:04:06:12
Wayne Mulder
Absolutely. Yeah, I. Not a lake, but I've been very privileged to always live near water that at least don't have houses on the other side. So even though it is a community, I still have the advantage of just looking at trees and enjoying the morning with the birds and the occasional gator, which is what we were talking about off camera.
00:04:06:18 - 00:04:08:08
Wayne Mulder
What the joys of central Florida.
00:04:08:17 - 00:04:10:08
Mitchell R. Tucker
That's right.
00:04:10:08 - 00:04:14:04
Wayne Mulder
Do you have a best or worst travel story?
00:04:15:11 - 00:04:32:22
Mitchell R. Tucker
You know, it's funny you mention that because I just got back from Texas and we get on the plane. This probably isn't the worst, but it was it was I've never had this happen. Right. We get on the plane, they go to take off like taxi the runway and the right, the jet on the right side of the plane wouldn't wake up.
00:04:32:22 - 00:04:52:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
According to the pilot, they couldn't get the jet to come on or turn over. So so they had to stop the plane. And then mechanics came on to the plane. We sat there for about 35, 40 minutes, and then they got the jet working. And I'm like, man, that just does not seem to be 100%, you know, 45 minutes, just 45 minutes ago, wouldn't turn on.
00:04:52:23 - 00:04:53:16
Mitchell R. Tucker
Now we're in the air.
00:04:53:16 - 00:05:20:20
Wayne Mulder
So there's nothing to worry about here. Guys. We're good to go. Just sit back and relax. Yeah, that would be a little nerve wracking. I actually have a family member who's a pilot, and we would discuss these kind of things all the time. And it it gives you a completely different perspective on what a lot of these things do that we as civilians or we as non pilots, you know, you're like, Man, I am nervous as heck about this plane, but they don't seem that worried about it.
00:05:20:20 - 00:05:22:00
Wayne Mulder
So I guess we're good.
00:05:22:00 - 00:05:23:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah. To them it's just driving a vehicle.
00:05:23:14 - 00:05:33:19
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, exactly. I know you have a couple of books which we'll get to, but do you have a favorite or most meaningful nonfiction book that's really meant something to you?
00:05:34:16 - 00:05:38:19
Mitchell R. Tucker
Well, I would be doing an injustice if I didn't mention this one.
00:05:39:07 - 00:05:41:22
Wayne Mulder
Yes, Yes, I agree with you 100%.
00:05:42:02 - 00:06:06:17
Mitchell R. Tucker
And there's nothing that that the thing doesn't cover, Right? It's not just all about, you know, churchy stuff. Right. But you've heard the same basic instructions before leaving Earth. I mean, that's that's what it is, right? So I suggest if you haven't got your hands on one of them, you should. But outside of that, I'm really into the personal development space.
00:06:06:17 - 00:06:28:12
Mitchell R. Tucker
I enjoy the personal development space a lot because it's changed my life now. There's a lot of fluff out there and there's a lot and garbage and nonsense out there for sure in that space. And I'll be the first to admit that. But there's a lot of really good books out there, like as a man, think is is a really good one and changing that, that mindset, the mentality I love books on mentality and mindset and mental resilience.
00:06:29:00 - 00:06:38:01
Wayne Mulder
And that's great. And we're going to talk more about that as we get into your story because that's such a powerful thing that you're involved in. But then it's so needed right now in the times that we're in.
00:06:38:16 - 00:06:40:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, for sure.
00:06:40:12 - 00:06:53:09
Wayne Mulder
So let's take that as an opportunity to kind of segway here a little bit. So let's just jump into your origin story. You can start as early as you want, but then kind of moving into, which was fairly early for you becoming a deputy sheriff.
00:06:54:08 - 00:07:15:22
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah. So I grew up in a family of entrepreneurs and but I for whatever reason, I was not interested at all. I wanted to go in military or law enforcement. That was it. And I was honestly leaning more towards the military. And as I was talking to recruiters and that was the direction I was kind of wanting to go.
00:07:16:05 - 00:07:42:20
Mitchell R. Tucker
But my dad was terminally ill my entire life. He was diagnosed with the disease and given seven years to live when my mom was pregnant with me. And around the time I graduated high school, I went off to college for one semester, found out not for me, came back home, and around that time he started getting pretty bad and I just couldn't wrap my mind around being overseas and something happening or not being able to get home to my family.
00:07:42:20 - 00:08:06:15
Mitchell R. Tucker
You know, we're I have a pretty tight knit family and I don't want to do that. I went to law enforcement. Well, I'm happy I did. I loved it. And law enforcement. I became a deputy sheriff at 19 years old. I got ragged pretty hard in the academy. No, I was 18 years old. Yeah, 18 years old in the police academy was not a fun time, but I was blessed to get involved in early.
00:08:06:24 - 00:08:14:10
Mitchell R. Tucker
I can't believe someone hired me. I wouldn't have hired me in 19, but I'm glad they did. And I couldn't even buy my own bullets. But I was carrying a gun around and.
00:08:14:20 - 00:08:15:15
Wayne Mulder
Isn't that crazy?
00:08:16:02 - 00:08:35:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
It is wild and wild. And fast forward a few years later, I became one of the youngest detectives in the agency. My last two years with Marion, I worked undercover narcotics and robberies as a robbery detective. So did a lot of really cool things. I got to train with the Department of Homeland Security in Alabama, did a bunch of really fun stuff.
00:08:35:03 - 00:08:36:24
Mitchell R. Tucker
I thoroughly enjoyed my career, for sure.
00:08:37:13 - 00:08:41:16
Wayne Mulder
Were you ATF TFO then? Was that where you were working with Homeland Security or.
00:08:42:17 - 00:09:00:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
I was. That's when I was doing the robbery, Detective Detective robbery stuff. Okay. They put me in, they sent me up there. But I would do in case I'm trying to think of the name of a field, it was the people that they, you know, the people when they have riots and stuff. Field Force is what it was called.
00:09:00:21 - 00:09:02:22
Wayne Mulder
Oh, okay. Yeah. Different names everywhere.
00:09:03:03 - 00:09:15:02
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah. They sent us up there to do training with them, to disperse crowds and all that kind of stuff. And then we did a a couple of active shooter drills and suicide bombing drills, all kinds of really cool stuff up there.
00:09:15:16 - 00:09:20:14
Wayne Mulder
Very cool. So at some point, so how long were you in law enforcement?
00:09:21:19 - 00:09:25:09
Mitchell R. Tucker
About 12 years. Okay. I did a couple of years reserves.
00:09:26:10 - 00:09:38:01
Wayne Mulder
Okay. So at some point in all this in your story, you then kind of segway into wanting to go into the business world. What what kind of motivated you to want to go into the business world in the first place?
00:09:38:19 - 00:10:01:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
This is a really cool story. So I get out from working the undercover stuff. I'm back in uniform, I'm in the Florida sun sweating my butt off, and I was working in a very low crime, 65 and 55 and over type area. You know, the county is huge. So I was down in that area and I get a call lady calls and she says, My husband's going out of town.
00:10:01:23 - 00:10:16:24
Mitchell R. Tucker
I'd like a deputy to come to my house to show me how I can make it more safe so I feel better while he's out of town. You're in law enforcement. I know a lot of law enforcement officers are listening. We show up with a smile on her face, but that's probably not the most exciting call you want to go on, right?
00:10:17:01 - 00:10:34:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
Right. Especially after doing what I had done for the last two years. So I'm I'm kind of annoyed. I'm not going to lie. And but I show up and. Yes, ma'am, No, ma'am. Smile on my face. Hey, I would do this. I would do that and show her some things on how to make her home more secure. But that lady changed my life forever, that one lady.
00:10:34:22 - 00:10:58:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
Because at the end of it, she said to me, she says, Wow, the peace of mind you gave me was worth every bit of five minute, every bit of $500. And to think the sheriff's office does this for free. And the light bulb went on and I thought to myself, I was here like 5 minutes, 10 minutes. And she said she would be willing to pay me $500 if I didn't have this uniform on.
00:10:59:12 - 00:11:21:10
Mitchell R. Tucker
And I was my mind was racing. I get back in the car and I'm just like, I can't believe that that's it. That's insane. I wonder if there is more people like her who would be willing to pay that right? Or if that was, you know, that's not the norm. So what what's interesting is I started the opportunities didn't show up at that point.
00:11:21:18 - 00:11:48:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
This is this is something I like to point out. The opportunities were always there. But because of that light bulb that went on, I started to recognize the opportunities. I started to see them right? So I started to I ended up opening up a security company I was doing go into people's houses and doing exactly that. I was showing them how to make their house more secure and then for an extra fee, I would come back and I would implement the things that I recommended.
00:11:49:01 - 00:12:01:00
Wayne Mulder
Okay. Now that just just to dig a little deeper, because you've really piqued my curiosity on this, was it just from a like alarm system kind of mindset or was it like a septet kind of the crime prevention through environmental.
00:12:01:06 - 00:12:22:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
Crime prevention, Yeah. Okay. Obviously, if you don't own an alarm system, I highly recommend that. But the like putting really basic stuff. But a lot of the general public don't even don't I mean to them it's like you know so putting a wooden door on the sliding glass door. Right. Some really basic stuff that you mentioned a lot of times.
00:12:22:14 - 00:12:25:10
Mitchell R. Tucker
How many times have you responded to a call and you can't find the address?
00:12:25:22 - 00:12:26:05
Wayne Mulder
Oh, yeah.
00:12:26:13 - 00:12:44:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
Right. You're like you looking around the even the two or three houses next to that house, you're going to you don't have addresses. So a lot of these houses wouldn't have addresses. So, you know, you need to get an address very, very visible. I would also go online and I would search and make sure that they didn't have a serious digital footprint.
00:12:45:04 - 00:12:58:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
Most of the time when people would hire me, I would do my digging. You know, I was a detective for a while, so I would I would do my digging. And when I showed up to their house, I would say, Is this your daughter? Is this where she goes to school? This is your neighbor. He's a sexual predator.
00:12:59:01 - 00:13:19:02
Mitchell R. Tucker
I would have a packet that I would hand them and be like, Look, I found all this online and that's the last four of your social and and they would just be like, Are you kidding me? And I never used any law enforcement forces at all. This is strictly basically Google and a couple paid things that the regular civilian can get their hands on.
00:13:19:08 - 00:13:32:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah. When I'd show up and show them that, it just blew their mind. So I would show them how to remove all that stuff off the Internet. Different services they can use. And then I show them how to make their house more secure. So.
00:13:32:15 - 00:13:33:14
Wayne Mulder
Oh, that's really cool.
00:13:34:01 - 00:13:34:08
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah.
00:13:35:02 - 00:13:47:07
Wayne Mulder
So I read something and I don't know, you can go further, but you actually develop some sort of alarm system or something. Correct. Did you actually did you patent it or did you. I mean, very cool. So what did you develop?
00:13:47:19 - 00:14:13:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
So kind of going back to where I just left off there, it was it was rewarding. It was extra money in the pocket, but it wasn't enough to replace my income. I was going and doing free crime prevention presentations. I was picking people's interest. And then if there was, you know, I was talking to churches and their little groups and stuff and and the Lions Club 30 or 40 people at a time, and I might get one or two people to have me come to their house and make a couple extra hundred bucks.
00:14:13:21 - 00:14:36:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
So it wasn't excuse me, it wasn't enough to replace my law enforcement income. So I was looking for more. I found I met this gentleman and he developed this alarm system and it was super basic. There wasn't a whole lot to it. It was a box. And without any wires, sensors or gadgets, you could plug this box in.
00:14:36:14 - 00:14:59:02
Mitchell R. Tucker
And if any door window was violated, the alarm would trigger on the box. It wasn't monitored. It didn't have an app, it didn't have any smart home technology, literally just a box with a siren in it with this really cool technology he had never patented, though. The military created the technology initially, and the military used it in safe homes and their EOD department.
00:14:59:07 - 00:15:19:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
So was this technology that would hook to an explosive on violated a door window and came into a safe home? It would send a signal to the bomb and detonate the bomb, destroy evidence, kill bad guy, whatever the case, however they used it. And it was actually top secret for the longest time, about 35 years ago, they declassified it and no one ever did anything with it.
00:15:20:12 - 00:15:41:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
So this gentleman comes along. Joe is his name is an older gentleman. He's I think he's 82 now. He's became a really close friend of mine. He's a great guy. He took that technology, obviously took the bomb off, put it in a box, and instead of a bomb, he put a siren on it. So exact same concept. You plug this box in, someone breaks in the door window, the alarm goes off.
00:15:42:00 - 00:16:08:02
Mitchell R. Tucker
And I was introduced to him. I was like, Man, that's such a cool concept. But it wasn't ready for the market, you know, it didn't. You got to have an app, you got to be able to monitor it. There was no subscription base, nothing. It was just this box. So I started working with him and I was able to I got I got it from him and we worked out a deal and basically added an app.
00:16:08:16 - 00:16:25:20
Mitchell R. Tucker
I got it professionally monitored. So it's monitored just like ADT or SIMPLISAFE. I added Smart Home Technology and got a key fob. So all the things that come within that with a regular alarm added cameras and we were able to patent it, but we have a dozen claims on it. One patent doesn't claims.
00:16:26:09 - 00:16:38:20
Wayne Mulder
Very cool. That's pretty cool. How long ago was this then? Was this decade ago or a couple of years ago? Or like when did you segway out of law enforcement into the business world and then into what you're doing now?
00:16:39:19 - 00:17:01:02
Mitchell R. Tucker
Well, that alarm system before it became everything that it became and it was just a box I needed like $100,000. Okay, I'm a cop. Where am I going to find 100 grand to make all that happen? Right? So I start looking for an investor. I found an investor I really want to work with. I'm still in law enforcement at this time, and I'm calling him up and he's.
00:17:01:03 - 00:17:18:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
No, no, no, no. He's not interested. Right. But I don't stop. I keep driving him crazy. Well, finally he tells me, Mitchell, if you send this alarm to all my product testers and they give the thumbs up on best Deal, I take all the screws out, I superglue them in because I didn't have a patent at the time.
00:17:18:14 - 00:17:49:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
I didn't know him at the time. I was worried that they were going to steal my idea. Right? So I supergroup all the skull screws and I send it out. Well, about two weeks later they say, Good to go. So I'm pumped. I'm like, All right, I got it. I got it in the bag. Finally, Right. I've been working on this guy for a long time and I call him up and I'm like, Hey, the product tester is there was in an email and they emailed me, him and me, and they're like, great product, not quite ready for the market, but with some capital capital it could be ready.
00:17:49:23 - 00:18:11:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
We think it's incredible, Whatever. So I see this email and I call him and he says, You know, Mitchell, you almost made me violate my number one rule. And I said, What's that? He said, I love you, I love the product, but I can't invest in you. I I'm not tracking what's going on here. He said my number one role is never to invest in someone who doesn't have any skin in the game.
00:18:11:05 - 00:18:32:10
Mitchell R. Tucker
He said, You've been a cop this entire time. If I give you the money and you don't do what you should do, I lose my money and you're still a cop. You lost nothing. So why would why would you work hard for this project? And I don't even know what to say at the time because, yeah, I've got time invested and I've got a lot of interest.
00:18:32:10 - 00:18:56:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
But outside of time and interest, what do I have invested? Nothing. And so I kind of was just had to say, Yeah, you're right. You know what? I understand completely. So I go home, I'm laying in bed and I did not sleep hardly at all, and I'm just laying there. And the next day I was we switched at the time we switched back and forth like every three months, which I hated, and I just switched back to day shift.
00:18:56:18 - 00:19:15:19
Mitchell R. Tucker
So I had to be up at like 430 in the morning and I'm late. I finally the alarm clock goes off. I tell my wife that, hey, I'm I'm going to go turn on my two weeks. She's at first she was like, what? You know, that's shocking that all in stock she married a cop, you know, and it's like, I'm what am I going to do?
00:19:16:16 - 00:19:35:16
Mitchell R. Tucker
And but one thing that was cool, she was super supportive and I encouraged the men out there, instill that in your wife that no matter what you provide, because if you're physically fit or you know, if you're physically in a decent shape, mentally and physically, there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to provide for your family.
00:19:35:16 - 00:19:50:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
And that's my personal opinion. Makes people, Man, if you were physically fit and mentally fit, you need to provide for your family. And she knows that there is no there is nothing in this world that would hold me back from paying my mortgage and putting food on the table. No matter what I had to do, I would do it right.
00:19:50:07 - 00:20:20:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
So because I've instilled that confidence in her, she said, Go for it. That's what you want to do. So I go to work and I turn in my two week notice thinking I have two weeks. Well, I didn't know it's a sheriff's office policy. They let you go same day and because obviously they don't want a guy with a gun that doesn't want or I guess right now they did pay me, but I'm 52 weeks to kind of just slowly work out of law enforcement, tell everyone by, you know, I'm a cop at 19, identified with that badge.
00:20:20:18 - 00:20:44:04
Mitchell R. Tucker
That was my identity, I'm sure. And to have that to turn in my two week notice and then say, all right, go to captain. And then within 30 minutes I'm handing over my badge. That was rough. It was really rough. And so now I'm thinking, Man, if this guy doesn't invest with me, I'm going to freak out because he doesn't even know I quit, right?
00:20:44:04 - 00:21:02:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
I'm quitting and hoping that he's going to invest. So I get back in my car and nothing but the pants on. They say, Hey and bring those back and they got pants on under shirt and I'm heading home. And I call him and I'm I'll never forget it. He answers the phone. He says, Yes. Mitchell, You know, because at this at this point he's done with.
00:21:02:10 - 00:21:03:04
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, exactly.
00:21:03:15 - 00:21:17:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
And I said, hey, I quit my job. And I said, You what? And I said, I quit my job. He's like, You fricking crazy, dude. Even if I do invest in you, you know, it's going to take several years to get this up and making money. And I said, I know, but you said I had no skin in the game.
00:21:17:07 - 00:21:36:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
I wanted to show you had a skin in the game. So I quit my job and he's like, I won't say exactly what he said was a SOB. He said, Well, if you can sell me, you can sell an alarm. And he invested the money. And that's how we were able to get that's the story on how I got out of law enforcement and how I was able to take that box and turn it into an actual alarm system.
00:21:37:10 - 00:22:10:02
Wayne Mulder
That is really cool. That is a powerful story. I don't know that that's for everybody, but it really does show something. And we're going to get to this as we go into more of what you're doing now. But it does show mental toughness, if you would. It shows this, Hey, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to be successful, and I'm going to show that to whomever I'm dealing with real quick while we're kind of on this Segway hang out because we were in a time and we can get more into this as well, where lots of people are leaving this profession, but a lot of people aren't sure what to do.
00:22:10:02 - 00:22:29:05
Wayne Mulder
They they don't feel like they have any marketable skills. Like, well, I've just been a cop. I started at 19, I started at 21, whatever it is for them, which is pretty common. You know, a lot of the guys that I work with now that are captains and lieutenants and they're all my age, so they're all in their early forties, you know, and they're getting ready to retire.
00:22:29:05 - 00:22:39:10
Wayne Mulder
So it's very common that they came into this career. Young, But a lot of times they don't feel like they have a marketable skills. Can you speak to that a little bit and kind of talk a little bit to that cop to business owner mindset?
00:22:39:22 - 00:22:58:19
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, And, you know, I completely relate with that because there was a time in my life where I wanted out. And when I first came out from being a detective and work in the narcotics stuff and went back to patrol, that the first three months I was miserable because I just, I don't know, I was just I was done with everything.
00:22:58:19 - 00:23:18:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
And I kept saying to myself, Well, what am I going to do? Like, literally, I know nothing I can shoot. I mean, I can drive a vehicle. I could. But there's law enforcement is so much more than that. Yeah, literally, a law enforcement officer was so many hats of the most diverse people in our country, really, because you're a counselor.
00:23:19:10 - 00:23:41:01
Mitchell R. Tucker
You're an incredible writer, right? I mean, how many how many reports do you write a day in a shift? Right. And so you're a prisoner. How many times have you went in front of a courtroom and spoke in front? Oh, so you're a public speaker now? Right? There is. You're there's so many things that law enforcement does that are so that can be transferred to the business world.
00:23:41:22 - 00:24:07:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
What I did was the I ended up opening up a security guard company. So I provide armed and unarmed security guard as executive protection. So I went into the private sector and who knows security better than a law enforcement officer. So you're already as a law enforcement officer, you're already used to speaking to people. Right. And and explaining things to them and breaking things down and being authoritative.
00:24:08:07 - 00:24:30:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
So now I take that that knowledge up a security company and I handle the sales right. So when I talk to someone, I'm able to speak from a point of authority and say, Look, I have 13 years of law enforcement experience. This is the and people listen because they know my experience I have I can back up what I'm talking about.
00:24:30:20 - 00:24:53:10
Mitchell R. Tucker
And I, I have a very authoritative presence so they know I'm not, you know, for nonsense. Right. So all that kind of transitioned into sales and that ended up becoming my main bread and butter, like that's my main income is the security guard services, the armed and unarmed security guard service. So we've got about 45 officers that work for us and we cover the entire state of Florida.
00:24:53:22 - 00:25:09:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
But I encourage you to any law enforcement officer out there, if you might not be able to see it, because you're blinders are on. And this might sound silly, but talk to your friends or talk to your loved ones. Talk to your wife or husband and say, know what is something that I'm good at that you think I'm good at?
00:25:09:14 - 00:25:20:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
You know, it's a silly question that sounds stupid, but there is something that you could absolutely crush it at, but you don't see it. You think I'm just a cop? That's not the case.
00:25:20:16 - 00:25:43:15
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, and I don't think I guess in some ways it may seem silly, which so many good ideas are. Right, because we're skeptics also. But I don't think it is silly. I agree with you 100%, because I think even I see that with myself where you don't realize, like what you can bring to the table when it comes to these skill sets and stuff or even things that you've refined over the years.
00:25:43:18 - 00:25:57:09
Wayne Mulder
And you may not be seeing it, but but those around you, they're seeing it and they are like, Well, that makes sense. I always saw like with me, you know, people even becoming a law enforcement officer because I did it later in life. People are like, well, I kind of I saw Wing as a cop. It's like I was a landscaper.
00:25:57:09 - 00:26:03:18
Wayne Mulder
How did you come up with that conclusion? You know what I mean? But they see these things with your personality. So no, I think that's great advice.
00:26:03:18 - 00:26:21:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah. And this show you how I transferred. You know, I said that in law enforcement, you're a public speaker. If you've been to court, you've had to speak in front of people and you have to do it well or, you know, it's not going to go well for you. So I began I started doing public speaking. I absolutely love speaking.
00:26:21:14 - 00:26:37:11
Mitchell R. Tucker
I speak is met as much as I can about mental resilience and mental fortitude. And I speak at the high schools, I speak at universities, I speak all over the place. I wrote a bunch of reports. I'm pretty good at writing, so I wrote a book. But there's there's a lot of things that cops are really great at.
00:26:37:11 - 00:26:41:22
Mitchell R. Tucker
They just got to learn how to kind of transition into the business world.
00:26:42:12 - 00:27:01:10
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, no, I think that's powerful and a good reminder because I would say, you know, you have a lot of conversations these days about mental health, a lot of conversations about resilience, but probably one of the number one conversations I have is people trying to look at what can I do either after I retire or something to do with transition in general.
00:27:02:00 - 00:27:10:24
Wayne Mulder
You brought up your book, which we definitely I want to talk about. Let me start, though, with what kind of brought you to writing the book and how do you define mental toughness?
00:27:12:06 - 00:27:32:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
So like I said, my dad was diagnosed with the disease when I was when my mom was pregnant with me. So they gave him seven years to live. He just passed away three or four years ago. So three years ago. So he made it a long time and the guy was the strongest man I've ever met in my entire life.
00:27:32:14 - 00:27:57:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
He not physically, but mentally, man. He went through it and was in pain. 24 seven and he never missed a game. He always provided for our family. The guy was a beast and he accomplished everything that he set his mind to. And I told him I was writing a book. And I remember towards, you know, towards the end they said, Hey, do you finish that book?
00:27:57:00 - 00:28:13:05
Mitchell R. Tucker
You finish that book. And truth is, I mean, I said I was writing a book, but I was only in chapter one Rise by halfway through chapter one. And he kept asking, Did you finish that book? Why never finish the book? Then my dad passes away and I sat down and I wrote the book and like three days.
00:28:13:15 - 00:28:13:23
Wayne Mulder
Yeah.
00:28:14:06 - 00:28:36:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
So it's funny how something like that will slap you in the face. And I thought to myself, Man, it only took me three days. I could have done this before he passed, you know, And the, the book I dedicated to him and my mom, he really was the fundamental theme behind the mental resilience that gave me that that mental fortitude.
00:28:36:07 - 00:28:54:15
Mitchell R. Tucker
And I didn't even realize he was giving it to me as a kid. Now, there's so much that as parents, we do, we don't even realize it's not even to us, it's not a teaching lesson. But our kids are looking at us and they're learning from everything that we do. Yeah, and he did that my entire life. He taught me the art of mental resilience.
00:28:56:10 - 00:29:15:09
Wayne Mulder
What is something? So we use that word a lot. What does resilience how what does that look like to you? Because I've heard different descriptions and there's some illustrations that I use when I teach and so forth. But what does resilience look like to you and can you apply that just kind of to the law enforcement profession as well?
00:29:15:09 - 00:29:25:07
Wayne Mulder
Because I think that it's something that we talk a lot about and people have their eyes glaze over. They're like, I have no idea what you're talking about right now, but being cops who don't want to ask either. So can you go a little deeper into that?
00:29:26:01 - 00:30:06:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah. So mental resilience, both from a civilian perspective and a law enforcement perspective. Civilian perspective. COVID hit. Your wife is a massage therapist. My wife. Right. Done. Income gone right me The start of my entrepreneur journey or not the start, but still pretty fresh. And I'm my income is hardly nothing at all. Law enforcement agency calls Mitchell Are you interested in coming back the the mental resilience it takes to say look, I have a dream and I you can take the exit.
00:30:06:03 - 00:30:24:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
The life is going to get hard no matter what you do. Anything that you do that's that's worthy of greatness is going to be difficult. We think of all the greats that's ever done anything impressive right? They went against the grain. They did some really scary stuff. And I know deep down inside they were scared. Yeah. And there were so many exits.
00:30:25:05 - 00:30:43:20
Mitchell R. Tucker
But they didn't take it because either they had a dream, a passion, a goal, something that they wanted. And because of that, they didn't take the easy route out. They didn't take the exit. And I believe that took a lot of mental resilience to make that happen. We can live. I like I like the term peaceful savage and that's kind of like my passion.
00:30:43:20 - 00:31:03:15
Mitchell R. Tucker
We can talk about that too. That's kind of the brand that we're building in. The second book I'm writing is called The Peaceful Savage. We can live as peaceful people all the time, but the second you get that call from the doctor and it's bad news, the second you get the call, you find out your spouse is cheating on you, the second you get the call and your boss lays you off, the second you get that call from the school.
00:31:03:15 - 00:31:27:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
And there's been an incident and your kid is in danger or hurt or harmed. You better be able to turn that savage on because life will crush you. Yeah. And if you're not able to flip that like a switch and dive deep and grab that resilience and mental fortitude, life is going to crush you. So I believe that mental resilience, I mean, it's in every aspect of your life.
00:31:27:18 - 00:31:47:15
Mitchell R. Tucker
If you if you don't have it, you better get it. As far as law enforcement perspective, it's funny, this story popped in my head, and I don't know if this is across the board with every agency, but I think it's you're working your butt off, right? You find your work, you want that undercover position, you want that detective position.
00:31:47:18 - 00:31:57:15
Mitchell R. Tucker
You are clearly the best person for the job. And you work work as hard as you possibly can. And then the next some other person gets the job because they're fishing buddies.
00:31:57:24 - 00:32:00:03
Wayne Mulder
Everyone feels that frustration in this career.
00:32:01:20 - 00:32:27:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
I had I was approached the first time I tried out for the working detective narcotics stuff. It was very clear and I'm not pat myself on the back, but I was a very high producer and I my cases were slam dunk. I didn't I didn't do no cheap crap. And the guy that got it above me was just he went ten eight and sit in his car and watch you do 90% of shift.
00:32:27:03 - 00:32:46:12
Mitchell R. Tucker
And that was how that was his law enforcement career. But the captain and him were like, you know, deep sea fishing buddies. And it was so awkward and everyone knew so much that the captain actually approached me and said, Look, we know that, you know, it might not look like it was the best option, but your next your next.
00:32:46:12 - 00:33:15:09
Mitchell R. Tucker
Right. Well, anyways, there was a part of me that wanted to be like, you know what? Screw that. I'm not even interested in more. I'm done. I but I, I really did want the position, the mental fortitude and resilience to keep it. And that's a silly example, but I thought of it when you said from a law enforcement perspective, the mental resilience to say, you know what, even though I was passed up, I'm still going to show up every day, I'm going to produce and I'm going to do my best to keep the streets safe, to keep everyone else safe, to put the bad guy away, even though it didn't go the way I want,
00:33:15:09 - 00:33:17:16
Mitchell R. Tucker
I'm still going to produce because it's the right thing to do.
00:33:18:12 - 00:33:39:24
Wayne Mulder
I think that's a great example. I don't know how many times because I'm fortunate to work in a supervisory role these days, and I don't know how many times I've heard this complaint from deputies when they come through the process and they're like, and it's not always fishing buddies, right? Like, sometimes there's something bigger that you don't know at any of the mid-level supervisory roles.
00:33:39:24 - 00:34:02:19
Wayne Mulder
Maybe it's way up here that they're like, this is what we're going to want to do. That's why we want so-and-so in that position. And there's all these pieces being moved all the time at these agencies that you may not be privy to. And I think what you're speaking to, at least my interpretation and what really resonates with me, is this whole idea of mindset that staying positive, staying because they're like, well, like you said, well, I don't even want to go in there and try out anymore.
00:34:02:19 - 00:34:19:02
Wayne Mulder
But it's like, Yeah, but who you become through that process is going to be the person that's going to be successful and maybe not in that particular position. And in my situation there were several that I didn't get, but then the ones that I have gotten happened to be the I'm thankful I got those and didn't get the other ones.
00:34:19:02 - 00:34:40:03
Wayne Mulder
It's like, Oh, my life would've been completely different had I done those others and not in a good way. So I think that's powerful. So one of the things that I love about what you're doing, Mitchell, and of looking at your website and we absolutely are going to get to Peaceful. Savage I'm kind of building towards that, but I really love what you're doing in the Oath and so forth, and we'll get that here in a minute.
00:34:40:03 - 00:35:16:15
Wayne Mulder
But before we do, one of the things I love is I really feel like you've got a strong foundation. I think you are building it out correctly, so you build it out. You talk about mental health and one of the statements that you make on your website is being pro-America and pro God shouldn't be controversial. And I think that that personal me and anyone that listens to the podcast and listens specifically to the morning roll calls knows that this is something I talk a lot about, that you that is kind of the foundational principles as an American blessed to live in the greatest country on earth, but to understand the history and what it means
00:35:16:15 - 00:35:25:05
Wayne Mulder
to be an American. And anyway, I could go on my soapbox, but I would rather turn this over to you and hear a little bit more about what that means to you being pro-America and pro.
00:35:26:00 - 00:35:51:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
So we we live in a society that is increasingly we talk about mental resilience and mental toughness. It's increasingly getting weaker and weaker. And it's ironic these people are hating on God, America, the burn in the flag. But if they were to do it in any other country and not any but a majority of the countries, they'd never see the light of day again.
00:35:51:08 - 00:36:14:16
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, you know, I want more than anything. Someone asked me what the definition of success was. More than anything, I want to leave an impact to so that my kids still grow up in a free country. And so the my kids, when I when I will be torn, I'm laying on my deathbed. I can say that I left my mark in a positive in a positive way.
00:36:14:16 - 00:36:37:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
I made a difference. And what I talk about is controversial and it shouldn't be. But it is. And it doesn't always feel good. But I like to use the example, you know, like Martin Luther Martin Luther King, when he got up, I'm sure he was his heart was probably beating 110 miles an hour. He was shaking like crazy.
00:36:37:23 - 00:37:01:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
He had a lot of courage. But I guarantee you, if he was if he was here, he would tell us, Yeah, I was scared as hell, right? Yeah, but that's the problem. Everybody shuts down when they're a little scared, when there's any kind of adversity or any pushback or anything at all. People shut down. I personally fall into a category that's often referred to as the silent majority.
00:37:02:11 - 00:37:08:12
Mitchell R. Tucker
All right, maybe you do, maybe you don't. But I fall into that category at least that's how I was. I've been labeled, you know.
00:37:09:06 - 00:37:15:21
Wayne Mulder
I'm just wondering how much of a majority there are anymore. But I'm with you. I absolutely wasn't. That would be in there as well.
00:37:15:21 - 00:37:21:20
Mitchell R. Tucker
So in I it is my opinion that that's why we're in the frickin crap that we're in.
00:37:22:02 - 00:37:22:08
Wayne Mulder
Yeah.
00:37:23:08 - 00:37:43:01
Mitchell R. Tucker
It's because we've been too quiet. Yeah. Everyone sits, Everyone sits quiet and someone asks me my opinion. Oh, you're going to get it. You're going to know exactly. And you probably don't even have to ask me my opinion. If you look at any of my content for any stretch of imagination or for any stretch of time, you're going to see exactly what I believe.
00:37:43:20 - 00:38:00:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
But you can't say that about a lot of content creators. You can click, you can read, you can you can read their books, you can watch their videos. You still don't know what they believe because everyone wants to stay right there in the middle so that everyone loves them. Yeah. So that there's no pushback. Well, I'm okay with being hated if it's the right thing to do.
00:38:01:12 - 00:38:19:15
Wayne Mulder
That's it. I love that. And I think that you make an important there because it's not about being controversial just for the sake of being controversial. It's about being grounded in principle. And if those principles become controversial, then it is what it is. Is that am I putting words in your mouth or is that kind of how you.
00:38:19:17 - 00:38:35:02
Mitchell R. Tucker
Know, that's it? So what makes a man great, in my opinion, being able to lay your head on the pillow at night and know that at no point did you violate any standard that you set for yourself, any values that you have for yourself. You know, if you can lay your head on the pillow and say, oh, why shouldn't have done that?
00:38:35:02 - 00:38:52:03
Mitchell R. Tucker
But the money was great, in my opinion. Not a great man, right? You're weak. Yeah. So a strong minded man. A great man is someone or woman is someone who can lay their head on a pillow every single night and say, Man, that was a hard decision. But I didn't violate anything that I believe in.
00:38:52:07 - 00:39:09:14
Wayne Mulder
And I think that's powerful. And that is life changing in and of itself. And maybe that leads into. But one of the questions that you've mentioned, and I'd be curious on your answer on it, is like, what is the one thing you believe could change the world? Where where are you coming from in that mindset?
00:39:10:24 - 00:39:34:00
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, and really, that's it is speaking out. Speaking out because I do feel it's hard to feel like we are the majority. And when I say majority, I say the pro god, pro-America, pro gun, pro-freedom, you know, freedom of speech, The people who just love being free and and realize it came from God, right? Those people, I believe that we are the majority.
00:39:34:03 - 00:39:56:21
Mitchell R. Tucker
It doesn't feel like that because we're not the ones run our mouths loud as hell all the time. Right? The people with the obscure beliefs who who think they're identifying as crabs and peacocks and stuff, those people are loud as hell, right? So to us, it's like day, man, that the we're the minority. It's what it feels like.
00:39:56:21 - 00:40:18:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
But it's not true. And I believe what changes the world is the people like you and I and probably a good chunk of the listeners step up and say, Hey, look, this is what I believe. I'm not scared to share it. Yeah. And and let other people know, Hey, you're not alone. If we let other people know they're not alone, then it will embolden other people to do the same thing.
00:40:19:02 - 00:40:40:06
Wayne Mulder
Yup. No, I couldn't have said it better myself. I mean, and I've always championed that whole speaking the truth and love. I mean, that's what it comes down to. You know, I don't say things just so I mean, we're all human. Sometimes I say things get a rise out of people, but that isn't always my intention. It's it's always this idea of speaking the truth and love and just coming back to being grounded and know why you believe what you believe.
00:40:40:06 - 00:40:59:01
Wayne Mulder
Sadly, we have an entire generation, a couple of generations now, depending on where you do the lying it that weren't taught. The things I was taught in school don't have those historical understanding of, you know, the history and what makes America great and American exceptionalism. And and some people are like, well, what does that have to do with law enforcement?
00:40:59:15 - 00:41:22:00
Wayne Mulder
Well, I would argue it has everything to do with law enforcement, because politics and those kind of things not only fundamentally transform how law enforcement does its job, it transforms society, which is going to impact how law enforcement does its job. So I think you're hitting the nail on the head, and these are probably some of the most important conversations that we can have.
00:41:22:21 - 00:41:32:13
Wayne Mulder
At one point. Then you created something called the Peaceful Savage, and you have an oath that's tied to that. Can you kind of take us into the creation of Peaceful Savage and what that's all about?
00:41:33:08 - 00:41:53:19
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, crazy story, I think is really unique. I'm lying in bed 3:00 in the morning and I wake up with the word peaceful savage on my brain, I swear to you. Weirdest thing. So I grabbed my phone and I put in the know it's peaceful savage because I didn't want to forget about it. And I go back to sleep.
00:41:53:21 - 00:42:10:11
Mitchell R. Tucker
A couple of hours later, I wake up for the day and it's the first thing on my brain. I didn't have to add it to the notes, apparently, and it never left. It was on my brain for like two weeks, just constantly. So I finally I'm here at the office. I'm like, I'm gonna dive into this. I look up the definition of peaceful.
00:42:10:11 - 00:42:32:04
Mitchell R. Tucker
I mean, we both assume we know the definition of peaceful and the definition of savage. But I'm like, Why do I keep having these two words in my head? So I look up the definition of peaceful. I look at the definition of savage. They're not going together. That doesn't make any sense. So I won't. It's a long story as a segue way into a Bible verse I ran across.
00:42:32:04 - 00:42:35:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
But you might have heard the verse The meek shall inherit the earth.
00:42:35:16 - 00:42:35:22
Wayne Mulder
Yeah.
00:42:37:01 - 00:43:00:01
Mitchell R. Tucker
Well, I hear that Bible verse and I've known that Bible verse, but I kind of put it together the peaceful savage. I said in my Neandertals, Neanderthal, Neanderthal thinking mind, how does that work? If a meek person tries to take my wallet? Right. I'm thinking like, like, you know, I don't know, blunt force. If, if, if a meek person tries to take my wallet, it's not going to happen.
00:43:00:06 - 00:43:21:06
Mitchell R. Tucker
Right. Doesn't make any sense to me. So I talked to my pastor, dig a little deeper, and then I find out really something pretty cool, the Bible school, really cool stuff. And what it's referring to is the meek person. If you can imagine someone who is trained with their sword to cut down anything in its path, I mean, an epic warrior.
00:43:21:06 - 00:43:42:01
Mitchell R. Tucker
This guy is trained from head to toe. He is a beast. But due to his meekness, he leaves his sword sheath. He doesn't pull it out. He has the ability to cut down. But due to his meekness, he leaves. The chief Law enforcement officers are the same way You have a firearm on your side, taser spray, baton, a ton of ammo.
00:43:42:04 - 00:44:06:24
Mitchell R. Tucker
You have the ability cut down. But because of who you are, you leave that sheath until necessary. When evil pokes its head, you take care of business. Yeah. You have that ability to be savage, You have that ability, but you decide to keep it sheath unless necessary. Same as the meek person who inherits Earth. And I thought, Wow, that is so similar to the peaceful savage.
00:44:07:15 - 00:44:32:18
Mitchell R. Tucker
Right? You have someone who has all the abilities very, very capable, physically, mentally, spiritually, but due to them being peaceful, due to them being the good guy, they keep that contained. But when necessary, they have the ability to let that out. And I don't just mean physically, right? Because when you start a business and you're worried about where's payroll coming from, you better be able to tap in the savage.
00:44:33:00 - 00:44:50:16
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, but when you go home with your children and they're like wanting to play with Daddy and hang all over Daddy, you better be able to tap into the peaceful aspect of it. You have to be able to switch that on and off and go into both modes. And I think the combination of the peaceful savage is the ultimate man or woman.
00:44:51:00 - 00:45:02:00
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, no, I think that's powerful. And so then what kind of led you to wanting to do the oath and trying to really draw people in this? And I believe it's peaceful savage oath dot com I'm doing this one from memory is that.
00:45:02:05 - 00:45:04:23
Mitchell R. Tucker
And it's peace oath dot com.
00:45:05:01 - 00:45:17:13
Wayne Mulder
PSA Ofcom so I'll be sure to link that up in the show notes but what what kind of legend of wanting to do the oath and getting people to be willing to say yes I'm in and this is something that I resonate with?
00:45:18:17 - 00:45:39:07
Mitchell R. Tucker
Well, going back to what I believe will change the world, I believe that if people or local people share what they believe and people commit to always doing what's right, that's what's going to change the world. If we could get majority of the people sign this oath and truly genuinely mean it, not just then. I want to see what's on the other side of this web page.
00:45:39:07 - 00:46:09:05
Mitchell R. Tucker
Let me type in my name right. If people will genuinely sign this to read it with intentionality and sign it and live by it, we change the world. Now, do I think that's going to happen? I don't know. But I'm a try right? I'm still young enough. I got quite a few years behind my I can try. And the thing about the oath, we talked about some of the things I say are controversial, but they shouldn't be the oath I really intentionally wrote it to where it could not be controversial.
00:46:09:21 - 00:46:31:05
Mitchell R. Tucker
There's nothing in there about being controversial. Part of the oath says that I commit to always doing what's right. What? I don't care how you believe that's right to you, not right to me. So if you believe that something is right, you're committing to always doing that. But the reason I wrote it like that is because I do believe the majority believes the way that they should believe it.
00:46:31:06 - 00:46:36:04
Mitchell R. Tucker
So if the majority signs an oath and they and they practice it the way they should, then we'll be in good hands.
00:46:36:22 - 00:46:47:17
Wayne Mulder
I love it. I think that's powerful. So your first book, Mentally Tough in a Weak Society, that is available on Amazon, and it looks like you also have a The Peaceful Savage Journal. Is that available right now as well?
00:46:48:16 - 00:47:10:17
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, You can get the peaceful Savage Journal, the book Mentally Tough in a Weak society. It went number one on Amazon. That's the one I wrote right when my father passed away. So only about 109 pages. And it doesn't talk about me personally, my story very much. It's more or less just the basics of mental resilience, how to obtain it, what it means.
00:47:10:17 - 00:47:25:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
And the second book is The Peaceful Savage. It should be out around December, so about a month or so, and it dives a little bit deeper into my personal story and what it means to be a peaceful savage. The different elements of a peaceful savage.
00:47:26:13 - 00:47:35:09
Wayne Mulder
I love it. Well, I'll be sure to link that up and I'll be keeping an eye for your book to come out on December, so I can link that up as well. So what's next for you and your mission? Where are you going from here?
00:47:35:09 - 00:47:59:05
Mitchell R. Tucker
Mitchell Well, I still have my I have my security company intact Security. We were blessed and it's growing. We're really starting to grow pretty quickly right now. So continue to grow that and I want to just spread the message of the peaceful savage as much as possible, any opportunity I can to speak and to share that message. That's my intention.
00:47:59:05 - 00:48:19:23
Wayne Mulder
I think that's a great mission. Let me ask you my final question that I ask everybody who comes on the show, and we've talked about so many things that probably fit this. But really what I like to do here is just drill down to one final point. So what is the one take away the one thing the law enforcement officers can do that's going to make a difference in their personal lives.
00:48:19:23 - 00:48:41:12
Mitchell R. Tucker
In not just law enforcement, but everyone. But, yes, certainly law enforcement have a passion for you guys for keeping you all safe and and showing you a better way is to live with intentionality. You know, wake up every single day and live with intentionality. And that's not easy. It's really not it is so easy to set your alarm.
00:48:41:16 - 00:48:59:15
Mitchell R. Tucker
It goes off. You wake up, grab something to eat, grab a cup of coffee, do your shift, come home, say hi, eat dinner, go to bed, set your alarm. And most people live like that. Completely robotic and they live their life like that and look forward to the two weeks a year that they take or one week a year that they take for vacation.
00:49:00:03 - 00:49:12:06
Mitchell R. Tucker
Yeah, just complete robots. And then they're like, Oh, I can't wait to retire. I can't wait to retire. Then you turn 55, 60, whatever you retire, you're bored, you go back to work, you work a little bit until you get sick. You retire, then you die.
00:49:12:14 - 00:49:24:10
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, many times within five years of retirement. Sadly, from statistics, and especially for law enforcement officers, I think that's great advice. Thank you, Mitchell. I really appreciate you coming on today. What's the best way for people to contact you?
00:49:25:05 - 00:49:39:14
Mitchell R. Tucker
You know Mitchell or Tucker dot com or any social media platform, Mitchell or Tucker. And then I encourage you, check out the oath if you're interested in learning more about the book or getting the book when it comes out. If you do sign the oath PSC, Ofcom will email you when the book comes out.
00:49:40:01 - 00:49:51:08
Wayne Mulder
Very good. I will be sure to have all that linked up so the listeners can get their hands on it. Mitchell, I really appreciate you taking time. I love what you're doing. I love what you're all about. I love what you're standing for. So thank you very much.
00:49:51:18 - 00:49:55:19
Mitchell R. Tucker
I appreciate it, sir. Thank you.
00:49:55:19 - 00:50:22:00
Wayne Mulder
So how was that? I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you so much for watching or listening to this week's podcast. Every episode has the full show notes, which goes a little bit deeper into who the guest is, has links to everything we discussed and has a transcription of everything that was stated. So if you're looking for something that was, you can easily search that and that is all available in the show notes page on the blue line dot com or the easy way because that's what I like to do.
00:50:22:01 - 00:50:43:04
Wayne Mulder
I like to make it easy for you. You can just look down on whatever, whether you're watching this on YouTube or you're listening to it on Spotify or anything else. If you just go down to the show notes, the very first link is to the show notes page. That is all for today. But do not forget that I'm going to see you next Monday and Roll Call, and I will see you Thursday in the interview room.
00:50:43:04 - 00:50:54:18
Wayne Mulder
But in the meantime, as always, I'll see you on the blue line.