PODCAST: MORNING ROLL CALL | What is Real Joy and how it relates to Law Enforcement | 92
MORNING ROLL CALL | What is Real Joy and how it relates to Law Enforcement | 92
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One take away for the week:
· A conversation about internal peace.
o I begin with discussing my recent trip to Aspen, Colorado. A big shout out to Cam, Hiram and Howard.
o I remind us that it is the third week of the Advent season when we light the Joy: Shepherd’s candle.
o I then define what joy is and what it is not and apply it to our careers in law enforcement.
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00:00:04:05 - 00:00:07:18
Wayne Mulder
Welcome
00:00:11:25 - 00:00:32:07
Wayne Mulder
Welcome, my friend, to the On The Blue Line podcast. I'm your host Wayne. Mulder, This is a law enforcement podcast where we discuss topics that will empower you on and off the job. Maybe you're feeling tired or frustrated, overwhelmed, overworked, struggling to find that balance between work and home life, which I'm not so sure exist. But whatever it is, maybe you just need some encouragement.
00:00:32:15 - 00:00:50:22
Wayne Mulder
Then you've come to the right place and I'm so happy you're here. This is the 99 second episode of Morning Roll Call in the 143rd episode of the podcast, and I am in awe each and every week when I bring a new show to you, be sure to stay. To the end of today's show, I'm going to recap my recent visit to Colorado.
00:00:51:02 - 00:01:12:14
Wayne Mulder
I'm going to question are the really normal people near Aspen maybe, and how important is Joy when we talk about law enforcement? So if this is your first time listening, Welcome. Welcome to the show. I've got two weekly podcast. The first is the one you're listening to right now or watching. It's called Morning Roll Call releases every Monday at zero 500 Eastern Time.
00:01:12:25 - 00:01:31:00
Wayne Mulder
And it's a weekly monologue show you and I just we get to just sit down. We just get sit here and have a conversation with each other. We discuss news, sometimes recent events, law enforcement trends and a variety of other topics. That gives you something to consider while you begin your week. Today is really just going to be a couple of thoughts that I had over the last week that we're just going to quickly discuss.
00:01:31:00 - 00:01:52:20
Wayne Mulder
So the other show which comes to you on Thursdays is called The Interview Room. And there I sit down with people from all walks of life, not just cops. And we discuss things that will be beneficial for you, for either your personal or your professional life. Last week was Eric Ream. If you haven't listened to that podcast, I mean, I tell you this with all of them, but I would certainly go back and listen to it.
00:01:52:20 - 00:02:12:01
Wayne Mulder
He's a great public speaker in that really comes through in our episode because it's just mesmerizing. Listening to him discuss his experience growing up with a father who was in law enforcement, and his father was also the chief of police for a while. He tells us some stories and then we really get into this whole concept of living a life of significance.
00:02:12:12 - 00:02:31:18
Wayne Mulder
So if you haven't listened to that episode, I encourage you to go back and do it. This week is a little bit different of an interview show. I'm bringing you Molly DeFrank and her book Digital Detox, and you're like, what in the world does that have to do with law enforcement? Well, I happened to work with a lot of people in law enforcement who are also parents.
00:02:31:29 - 00:02:47:23
Wayne Mulder
And I thought, well, what would be more fitting than having a conversation with something that all of us as parents have had to face at one time or another when it comes to living in the digital age and the frustration that sometimes comes from it. So I think you're going enjoy that episode. And that comes out this Thursday in zero 500.
00:02:48:15 - 00:03:08:13
Wayne Mulder
Just know the podcast is available everywhere you Stream podcast really with very, very few exceptions, if there are any, and always on video on YouTube as well as on Rumble, which is kind of what I edit the show's towards. So I do suggest watching it. If you haven't subscribe to our YouTube channel or to our rumble channel, please do.
00:03:08:19 - 00:03:38:00
Wayne Mulder
That is probably the best way to catch the podcast. So this week on Morning Roll Call, like I said, I first wanted to start with recapping if you've been listening to the podcast over the last few weeks, I was talking about how when you were listening to the show, I was not hear, hear being in the On the Blue Line podcast studio in sunny Florida, rather, I was in the cold and snowy West, which for the record is where I would like to be all the time and is why I'm doing this podcast.
00:03:38:00 - 00:04:03:23
Wayne Mulder
So hopefully with your help in this podcast we will get there. So I appreciate that. But we had the opportunity to go to beautiful Aspen, Colorado had never been before. It is kind of what I expected. California in the mountains. I've been to California either don't mean anything derogatory towards those of you who have. I'm fairly certain though, myself, being from the free state of Florida, that I'm going into California, they may never let me back out.
00:04:04:01 - 00:04:26:07
Wayne Mulder
But anyway, whatever the situation may be, it was absolutely beautiful. We saw a lot of snow and the whole thing was made possible by a friend of mine that I work with and some of his family and stuff. So thank you to all of you. But we had a great time. We did some snowmobiling out there. We saw eight inches or more of snow, between eight and 12 inches, depending on whose math you're using.
00:04:27:15 - 00:04:54:01
Wayne Mulder
And then we also got to spend some time, fly fishing and hiking and saw elk and mule deer and just all the things that I really love about the West. But I believe the one take away for me, like I said, Aspen is not my kind of place. I'm not even so sure Colorado necessarily is these days, much more Wyoming than Colorado in my thinking and what I like, as well as the remoteness.
00:04:54:22 - 00:05:14:16
Wayne Mulder
However, that being said, one of the cool things about traveling, when you get the opportunity to travel around the country, this great country is you get to meet people from all walks of life and a lot of times you get to meet like minded people and we really had a great time running into people that you would not expect in certain areas.
00:05:14:16 - 00:05:43:26
Wayne Mulder
And I definitely want to shout out to Cam as well as Hiram and Howard, great guys that we met out there and hearing their stories and their family stories. Hiram's dad, who was in law enforcement, just really cool listening to kind of what brought them to that area. And if, if any of you, my listeners are planning any trips to that area and you're looking for either snowmobile guides or fishing guides, be sure to drop me a dime.
00:05:43:27 - 00:06:09:25
Wayne Mulder
Reach out to me. I'd love to recommend these people because just really cool people, stories, belief systems. And it was kind of refreshing because the city itself is what it is. And you know, obviously it's a high money area with when more people are pushing dogs and strollers than allowing them to walk it. I don't know that that's just not a world that I quite understand.
00:06:10:13 - 00:06:30:04
Wayne Mulder
However, the people that I got to meet around that area, whose families had been on ranches there for a long time, that was really neat. And another thing that was kind of a takeaway is that even though we agreed on a lot of things, we didn't agree on everything. Surprise, surprise, with me, we actually got into a political conversation.
00:06:30:04 - 00:06:48:22
Wayne Mulder
Anyone that knows me knows that it really only takes about 1 to 2 sentences and we can end up in a political conversation and having that talk with these guys, it was kind of cool because we actually disagreed on some things, but there was a lot more that we agreed on than we disagreed on. So it was really a great trip, really had a great time.
00:06:48:22 - 00:07:12:22
Wayne Mulder
And I definitely suggest the area. Obviously, my goal is to move to Wyoming, which is no secret, both to the people that I work with and anyone listening to this podcast. But if you ever get the opportunity to visit that part of Colorado, anywhere from Glenwood Springs to Aspen to Basalt all through there, just absolutely beautiful country and highly, highly, highly recommended.
00:07:12:22 - 00:07:46:29
Wayne Mulder
So what do we want to talk about today? Like I said, this is going to be a shorter podcast. We're in that stretch and I kind of touched on this last week. We're in that stretch right before the Christmas holiday and between Thanksgiving and Christmas, where I become very introspective, I really begin to think about the year, I begin to take stock and we're going to get a little bit more into that as we near the first of the year, because that's to me kind of, you know, the point on the calendar where you switch from, you know, what were the highs from last year that I can learn on, the lows that I can
00:07:46:29 - 00:08:06:19
Wayne Mulder
learn from? And then what are the goals for next year? And we'll get to that in the coming weeks. But in this period of time, I become very introspective. So if you follow the liturgical calendar at all, if you go to a church that talks about Advent, then yesterday was the third candle that was lit and it's the joy or the a shepherd's candle.
00:08:07:05 - 00:08:28:10
Wayne Mulder
If you listen to any traditional Christmas music, then you'd be quite aware of the song Joy to the World right? And joy is part of the Christmas season. But as I was researching this and I was kind of thinking about what I wanted to talk about and what was the concept that I thought you and I ought to just sit here and discuss.
00:08:28:21 - 00:09:06:21
Wayne Mulder
I was thinking about how joy is so often misrepresented in common or in culture today, especially in society. You know, it's described in the dictionary as a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. So there's this idea that in order to be joyful, everything has to be going well or that you're getting everything you want, right? You know, kids are happy when they get something that they they want or things are going well for them or, you know, it's that momentary pleasure that dopamine rush, you know, that that is what so often gets thought of as joy.
00:09:07:09 - 00:09:26:20
Wayne Mulder
But and again and I say this I always preface this because I know I have listeners from all sorts of faiths and those that have no faith. But when I talk, I'm going to come from a place of faith because that is my situation and you're listening to my podcast. So I don't know to tell you, but for me there is a biblical definition of joy, right?
00:09:26:20 - 00:09:52:16
Wayne Mulder
And so that is and I've seen it written as choosing to respond to external circumstances with inner contentment and satisfaction. So in other words, it's this idea that it's derived from something deep within us Christians believe that it comes from the Lord. You know, it's that kind of kind of joy that allows you to sing in prison. You know, we see that with the apostles, You know, they're imprisoned and yet they're still singing praises, right?
00:09:52:27 - 00:10:18:28
Wayne Mulder
It's that ability to smile in adversity. And I know that this is very countercultural to today's concept. You know, so often when we say someone is happy, they're happy because they got something they wanted. Or in that moment, everything is going right. And that's the only time they can be happy. In fact, we have really the opposite going on right now, where most people are not happy because they're never content.
00:10:19:07 - 00:10:43:26
Wayne Mulder
There's this feeling that, well, nothing ever goes right. And so why would I be happy? You know, I may as well just be miserable, make everyone around me miserable. And that seems to kind of be the overwhelm in principle. But joy is really derived from something deeper, right? Joy is derived from hope. I've talked about the word hope before because without hope, that's where we get to where we are with like the mental health crisis.
00:10:43:26 - 00:11:07:08
Wayne Mulder
That's where we get with people becoming apathetic, with people becoming cynics, with people deciding, well, I just I can't go on anymore. Why would I? Because I lose hope. So Joy is very much in line with the kind of joy that I'm talking about is derived from this idea of hope. So we all know somebody, right? Somebody who's a positive person or a happy person.
00:11:07:08 - 00:11:36:00
Wayne Mulder
Well, they're just always happy. They're always they always have that good attitude. They're always whistling and singing. And that doesn't mean that things are always going right for them. I mean, there are certain people that, you know, fake it till they make it. I guess. But there is something about having an internal joy, something in that internal internal something that is core to themselves, something that allows you to face adversity and pain and discomfort and still know that tomorrow could be a better day.
00:11:36:21 - 00:12:06:23
Wayne Mulder
I think this is an important concept, and I hope you'll follow me on this thought, but I think it's an important concept to law enforcement. Anyone who's worked in law enforcement for any period of time, if you've been in law enforcement more than two years, you've been through the training process, you've been out there through a couple of holidays now you realize that around the holidays, specifically these holidays, Thanksgiving through Christmas and to the New Year, there seems to be a spike of mental health calls.
00:12:06:23 - 00:12:44:09
Wayne Mulder
There's a spike of suicides, depression, there's suicide attempts, there's sometimes violence from family being together and then contributing factors such as alcohol or narcotics and all these things kind of come to a head, if you would, in this time period in law enforcement is forced or must respond in, must see these. And I think one of the things as I look back over I've been doing that career or this career will say that career because the goal is that this becomes its own career again, different conversation.
00:12:45:10 - 00:13:35:12
Wayne Mulder
But in that career in law enforcement, I would say that that becomes a key part for so many of us this time of year is just there's this lack of joy and this lack of hope. And I think it is important as law enforcement, as somebody whose role is to be there for others, to be a protector, to insert into a moment of darkness something positive, that we ask ourselves these hard questions, that we take time for our own introspection, that we take time to consider our own situation, and we seek this kind of joy because, you know, we all hear the cliche, I've mentioned it many times.
00:13:35:12 - 00:14:04:28
Wayne Mulder
Others have mentioned it many times so much. It's too ad nauseum at this point. But the whole oxygen mask thing. Right. In fact, two flights to Denver and back from Denver, they mentioned the same silliness both times. It was hilarious, though. The first flight attendant actually mentioned that nobody was listening to her. She was pretty much correct. But they always talk about if you do get the oxygen mask to put it on yourself first and then help the vulnerable ones around you, be it children or others, help them get theirs on.
00:14:04:28 - 00:14:23:28
Wayne Mulder
But you got to get your own mask on first. And that concept is so true with so many things. But when we talk about mental health, when we talk about service, when we talk about what law enforcement does for serving others, I can not think of a better metaphor than the concept that you have to take care of yourself first.
00:14:23:28 - 00:14:47:24
Wayne Mulder
That's the concept of resiliency. That's the concept of self care. That's what all this is predicated on. And I hear because I literally hear it from people all the time that, well, my agency, you know, they don't really believe that if they did, then they would give us more time off or they would they would this, they would that and listen, the profession has a long way to go.
00:14:48:23 - 00:15:08:00
Wayne Mulder
I understand that. It's true. The profession has a long way to go. There's a lot of agencies that are not very forward thinking when it comes to these concepts. It's kind of this is the way we've always done it, which if you listen, if you've listened to me for any length of time, you know that that is probably one of the most irritating statements to me.
00:15:09:07 - 00:15:36:14
Wayne Mulder
You know, a hundred years of tradition, uninterrupted by progress drives me crazy, right? The whole we've always done it this way is the worst, absolutely worst reason to do anything. But that doesn't mean that you. Yeah, you again, it's just you and I, right? We're just you and I sit here having this conversation. That doesn't mean that you and I can't start to look at it a little differently in our own lives.
00:15:37:10 - 00:16:02:05
Wayne Mulder
What have you done to sit down? Have you ever considered the concept of joy? Have you considered what that looks like for you? What is hope look like for you? Last week I talked about peace. What does that look like? What intentional, overt steps have you taken? That's what I want encourage you on this week. So just. Just like peace, right?
00:16:02:07 - 00:16:28:03
Wayne Mulder
Just like peace. We talked about last week. True joy does not come from external circumstances. It's internal. It's something deep inside us or something that is greater than ourselves, depending on your belief system. It is a choice and it is based in the hope that tomorrow can and will be better. So as we go through the holiday season and the calls for service that inevitably are going to come out this time of year, I encourage you to find joy, seek it out.
00:16:28:14 - 00:16:50:11
Wayne Mulder
The kind of internal contentment and happiness that allows you to smile through adversity, sing through life storms and face turbulence, head on. This is not positive thinking. It's deeper than that. For those with a Christian belief system, it is knowing that that is got this I don't have to worry about tomorrow because I know who holds today. I encourage you to seek out that kind of joy.
00:16:50:11 - 00:17:09:18
Wayne Mulder
And like I said last week, to find that kind of peace. That does it for this week's Morning Roll Call. I'm going to see it Thursday in the interview room. But in the meantime, I'm going to see you out there on the blue line.