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Amanda Monnier
Meet this Weeks Guest: Amanda Monnier
Amanda knows she is here to assist with the anchoring in of New Earth and Oneness Consciousness—the veil is thin + the old way simply does not work any longer. She has a passion for supporting people in reconnecting back to their unique Divine Frequency.
Amanda transitioned into her soul work from a career in law enforcement after feeling the nudge to go all in on her mission work.
She believes in each of us activating our Divine Genome/Divine Radiance Blueprint and healing through connection to our own Divinity. She assist her clients in stepping in to the aspect of themselves that is already living in Divine health/vitality/radiance. Amanda helps her clients in the releasing of cyclical pain body loops, healing ancestral patterns, conditioning, imprints, beliefs, + the shifting into the fullest embodiment of who you are at a soul level.
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We know first-hand the struggle of trying not to take the job home with us and let it affect our families. We know the toll the law enforcement career can have on marriages and relationships. And we also have been frustrated by the lack of authentic leadership in our agencies. This Law Enforcement Podcast was designed to help you overcome the mental toll of the law enforcement career and the negative effects it can have on your personal life.
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00:00:09:21 - 00:00:29:08
Wayne Mulder
Welcome to the IOn the Blue Line podcast for law enforcement. I am your host, Wayne Mulder, and I'm happy to be back with you again this week. This is the podcast that helps law enforcement officers overcome the mental health toll of the profession to become better leaders and protectors on and off the job. This week on the podcast What true Healing even means.
00:00:29:16 - 00:00:46:16
Wayne Mulder
How do we deal with unprocessed trauma? What is unconscious autopilot and how important is proper breathing? All that and more this week on the Blue Line podcast starts now.
00:00:46:16 - 00:00:53:22
Wayne Mulder
So Welcome...
00:00:53:22 - 00:01:13:08
Wayne Mulder
Thank you so much for listening to this week's podcast. This is another the interview room. And here I sit down with guests from different walks of life and I get to have great conversations with them. Sorry if you have been a long time follower, you're probably like, Why is there not regular content?
00:01:13:17 - 00:01:32:06
Wayne Mulder
Well, I answered that in a previous episode, but I am trying to get it out to you as soon as possible. And full disclosure as I always do. Some of these were recorded quite some time ago, but I ensure you that all the content is going to come to you. And fortunately, a lot of especially these interview rooms is evergreen content.
00:01:32:06 - 00:01:58:02
Wayne Mulder
So you're not missing anything. You know, things happen when they're supposed to happen. So this content is getting out to you and it's always fresh content. I know there's probably differing thoughts on from a business perspective, people are like, Well, why don't you take your old episodes and reissue them and so forth. If you're a binge listener to podcasts like I am, there's nothing more annoying to listening to an episode and then going back, you know, a year's worth of their stuff and been like, Did I just hear this episode?
00:01:58:08 - 00:02:19:14
Wayne Mulder
Anyway, that drives me crazy. So rather than doing that, all the content when it gets released is new content. However, some of it may have been recorded some time ago. The good news is, is I feel like we are getting to a point where this content will be more regular again and get us to the next level with what we're trying to create here at on the blue line dot com.
00:02:20:01 - 00:02:37:08
Wayne Mulder
If this is your first time joining us for more on what that is just go to on the blue line dot com and that is all about the on the blue line podcast. So on the blue line that's open on the blue line dot com. For the sake of this episode I want to get right into it. This week I sit down with Amanda Monnier.
00:02:37:16 - 00:03:04:17
Wayne Mulder
She transitioned into her social work from a career in law enforcement after feeling the nudge to go all in on her mission work. She's an energy healer, a Breathwork facilitator. She's the podcast host of New Earth Visionaries and a certified yoga teacher. And if you have been listening to the show for any length of time, you know that what I like to bring you is practical information, especially when we talk about mental health, when we talk about wellness, when we talk about a holistic approach to life.
00:03:04:23 - 00:03:25:01
Wayne Mulder
And that's exactly what Amanda is doing. So she's here. She she's been quoted as saying she helps people release from their inner struggle, lack of confidence, low self esteem and burnout and codependency. I think you're going to enjoy this episode. So without taking any more time, here's this week's guest, Amanda Monnier. Well, Amanda, welcome to the show.
00:03:25:20 - 00:03:29:06
Amanda Monnier
Hi, Wayne. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here today.
00:03:29:19 - 00:03:37:14
Wayne Mulder
Absolutely. You know, I'm so glad you reached out on social media and we could sit down and have this conversation. So I think some really helpful things for law enforcement is going to come out of it.
00:03:38:02 - 00:03:43:04
Amanda Monnier
Yeah. And that's that's my intention. So whatever I can share, I'm happy to happy to share here. So.
00:03:43:11 - 00:03:57:19
Wayne Mulder
So awesome. Well, let's start, as I always do with some. Get to know your questions. Real simple coffee or tea or coffee. Okay. Now is it black coffee or are we talking like a latte or a mocha or what kind of coffee Daily.
00:03:57:21 - 00:04:06:08
Amanda Monnier
Is just me going to have a hint of sweet, but I don't like a bucket of sugar also, so definitely not black. Kind of in the middle there if I have sweet.
00:04:07:00 - 00:04:14:12
Wayne Mulder
That sounds good. I have to. I have to ask when you say have sweet like that. So are we actually talking sugar or are we talking like agave or something like that?
00:04:15:16 - 00:04:27:04
Amanda Monnier
So, okay, so my go to right now I'm actually on prep for my first fitness show, so I'm not drinking the sugary lattes and all the things, but if I could have any coffee I want, it's going to be a vanilla latte. Half sweet.
00:04:27:12 - 00:04:34:24
Wayne Mulder
Okay, perfect. Well, my follow up question always is, where's your favorite place to have that drink? Like that peaceful spot to just enjoy a sip of coffee.
00:04:35:08 - 00:04:52:13
Amanda Monnier
Oh, I love that. There's this coffee shop in Orange, which is about 20 minutes away from me. My, my friends are was like, Why don't you drive 20 minutes to go get coffee? Because it's so great. There is the best coffee, and then they have the best burger. It's like a little cafe, but they have amazing food and coffee.
00:04:52:13 - 00:04:57:13
Amanda Monnier
So definitely it's called True Brew in Orange. It's in California. Favorite.
00:04:57:14 - 00:05:18:09
Wayne Mulder
Okay, Well, any of the California listeners will have to check that out. And anyone else who goes and visits. Of course, it is funny to me when you say that, that people give you a hard time. I'll drive 45 minutes to an hour to go to some place I want to go or further, like in the state of Florida, because we talk that I'm here in central Florida, driving halfway across state or all the way across state, because only takes you 2 hours to get over to the other coast.
00:05:18:22 - 00:05:25:08
Wayne Mulder
I'll do it all the time, but people will be like, you're going to go 15 minutes for that. It's like, Yeah, it's so funny to me.
00:05:25:23 - 00:05:28:06
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, so do the foodies.
00:05:29:16 - 00:05:35:17
Wayne Mulder
Exactly. Well, that's thing if you really enjoy it, like, if you enjoy that moment, you're willing to drive for it.
00:05:36:24 - 00:05:38:02
Amanda Monnier
Same here. I'm with you.
00:05:38:22 - 00:05:41:20
Wayne Mulder
So I have to ask you, what is your best or worst travel story?
00:05:43:10 - 00:06:03:19
Amanda Monnier
Oh, this one is the one we just gave out. We'll go with that. So I actually went on a trip. Sorry. If you're listening with my my friend and her family, we're going to the Bahamas. It was actually my first time out of the country, and it was. It was her her husband and their two children, her parents and their son.
00:06:04:02 - 00:06:24:08
Amanda Monnier
And we get there. And one of the the son, if it was like probably three days into the trip and they had to call the Bahama police on him, you know, call the cops because he was just out of control. I think he had just turned 21. And so I actually ended up I was like, I'm out, guys.
00:06:24:08 - 00:06:35:08
Amanda Monnier
And a couple of days later I left and I ended up being like, little vacation. Now, over, I had a pup sitter watching my dog. So I'm like, I just flew to Scottsdale and I was like, I'm just going to finish my vacation in Scottsdale. But I was like, I'm out.
00:06:36:01 - 00:06:36:18
Wayne Mulder
Wow.
00:06:37:16 - 00:06:55:18
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, it was interesting. I like I like hearing you sitting there because at the time I was actually working in law enforcement. I was a probation officer and I'm like, here I'm sitting here with the Bahama police, like coming to the hotel are supposed to be enjoying ourselves and drinking like Mai Tais and all those things. And I'm like, Yeah, this ain't my vibe about Yeah.
00:06:56:13 - 00:07:05:07
Wayne Mulder
That's one of those things in law enforcement, right? Like, you have that moment where something's going on and you're like, This is not a world I want to be in with my current career. So you don't have a good that.
00:07:05:11 - 00:07:06:15
Amanda Monnier
Good could happen for this.
00:07:07:09 - 00:07:14:11
Wayne Mulder
Exactly. Yeah. I've been there myself. So do you have a favorite or most meaningful modern nonfiction book?
00:07:15:24 - 00:07:35:22
Amanda Monnier
The first book that popped into my mind. I don't even know if this counts for what you're asking, but it's one I read recently. It's called Breath by James Nestor. And it's about and it is. This is a blond moment. Here is it's even nonfiction. But he talks about breathwork and how important it is and actually how the science of breath work has.
00:07:36:22 - 00:07:56:02
Amanda Monnier
He just brings in this amazing science into it. And actually how the human skull has changed because of mouth breathing. Like, I don't know if you ever heard that term. Oh, he's a mouth breather. Yeah, I didn't realize it was actually kind of like a jab or whatever, because breathing in and out of the mouth is actually not good for us.
00:07:56:02 - 00:07:59:23
Amanda Monnier
And there's a bunch of science behind it. So that's the first book that popped into my head.
00:08:00:13 - 00:08:14:24
Wayne Mulder
Well, that is a perfect yes, that is a nonfiction. Well, the reason I add all those qualifiers is otherwise you get to say, if I just say, what's your favorite book? Two things happens. Half the people are always going to say Bible because they feel guilty if they say otherwise. And so that's why I add matter to me.
00:08:15:09 - 00:08:45:15
Wayne Mulder
Right? But you know what I mean? And then the other half is then the other thing you get is everyone mentions their own books, which we get to later in the conversation, but I try to qualify it so much just to try to come up with other ideas like this one. So this is a great a great one, great trying to think of the name of it, but I recall a couple of years ago a hearing of a book where this was the whole premise of it, where they talked about the whole mouth breathing and how important it is to do that deep diaphragm breathing as well, because that's the other premise, shallow breathing.
00:08:45:21 - 00:08:57:12
Wayne Mulder
And I don't know if he goes into it, but the other problem is so many of us shallow breathe, which is an issue to which we'll probably get into as we talk about law enforcement and some of the trauma response and so forth.
00:08:57:23 - 00:09:23:13
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, absolutely. And it was funny, I, i one of my breathwork guides like a class I was taking, he was actually shared that the breath is often indicative of the life span. He said that turtles take like a couple breaths per minute dogs and they live like, like over a hundred years, some of them. And and then dogs breathe so shallow, like, so shallow and they're like, often panting and they have shorter lifespans.
00:09:23:13 - 00:09:30:04
Amanda Monnier
And so he's like, we brought him some really cool, like science and data around that was like, Oh, that's fascinating, but it makes sense.
00:09:30:22 - 00:09:40:18
Wayne Mulder
It absolutely does. That's kind of cool. I'll definitely check that book out. So the last of these questions, where is that place that brings you the most piece? What is your favorite spot to kind of stop breathing, enjoy life.
00:09:41:03 - 00:09:43:11
Amanda Monnier
Do Orange County, Huntington Beach.
00:09:43:23 - 00:09:45:24
Wayne Mulder
Okay. Yeah. So definitely a beach.
00:09:45:24 - 00:10:07:17
Amanda Monnier
Girl that I moved to, which I'm sure we'll get into my leaving law enforcement, but I ended up in Southern California. I've always thought this pool towards the ocean and I'm like 20 minutes from there at this point. So I just if I need a recharge or a refresh, I'm going to Huntington. And it's one of the most magical places to me.
00:10:07:17 - 00:10:26:19
Wayne Mulder
So awesome. Yeah, it's powerful for me. It's right up there next to the mountains. I, I love it. Now, in Florida, you have both you have the golf side, which is different. But I love the other coast, the east coast of Florida, where you have the waves and you really get that peace that comes from that.
00:10:27:12 - 00:10:29:00
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, I love both. It's good.
00:10:29:10 - 00:10:39:24
Wayne Mulder
So from here, let's kind of move into your origin story. You teased it a little bit that you had worked in probation, but you start as early as you want with kind of what took you into law enforcement. The most segway from there account, What took you out of it?
00:10:40:10 - 00:11:00:01
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, it's actually really funny because I didn't even know what probation was. I got undergraduate degrees in psychology and in criminal justice, and the reason I ended up in criminal justice was I took like I think it was criminal Law 101. I was like, Oh, this is really cool. I changed my major from kinesiology to criminal justice, and I had no idea who.
00:11:00:03 - 00:11:01:02
Amanda Monnier
By the time my dad.
00:11:01:02 - 00:11:04:03
Wayne Mulder
Interesting. Where did you go to school?
00:11:04:03 - 00:11:06:08
Amanda Monnier
At Sacramento State. Okay.
00:11:06:18 - 00:11:07:01
Wayne Mulder
All right.
00:11:07:23 - 00:11:29:07
Amanda Monnier
So I ended up like I was like, okay, I'm in a double major. I don't know what I'm going to do with this. I don't know what it's going to look like. My dad really was advocating for law school, and I at one point thought about it, but I had finished my time at Sacramento State and started applying for jobs as we do when we're done with our four year degree.
00:11:29:17 - 00:11:48:18
Amanda Monnier
I ended up working at an inner city school as a school counselor, but I had even forgotten I'd applied to Placer County Probation Department. And then I get a call about a year after I had applied and asked if I was interested in coming in, and I immediately thought I was going to have to work in institutions and work at the hall.
00:11:48:18 - 00:12:07:23
Amanda Monnier
So I was kind of like I was open to it and I scheduled the interview. But I actually almost canceled the interview because I didn't have a desire to work in a juvenile hall. So I had the interview. They offered me the job, entered in the backgrounds immediately, and within probably three or four months It was like a really quick turnaround from my background.
00:12:08:04 - 00:12:25:24
Amanda Monnier
Ended up working at the probation department and I had no idea what I was getting myself into. Like I knew a little bit because I had done a short internship, but it was more it was at a local police department, but it was more like with the social work department, with the social work team, working with kids. It was like an art pal.
00:12:25:24 - 00:12:49:03
Amanda Monnier
I don't know if you guys have something similar. So like a pal where they have the Police Activities League and work with all the kids and stuff like that. So it was I was kind of tied into this, but I wasn't fully and I had never shot a gun, none of that stuff. I was super green. It was just one of those things where I had no idea what to expect, which I guess was both maybe good and bad.
00:12:49:03 - 00:13:11:05
Amanda Monnier
But I started working at the probation department and it was like several months. Then I was like, I love this job. I'm never going to leave. This is this job is designed perfectly for me. This is so great and started getting into the trainings and things like that. So that was kind of the Segway into the career. And there are many times where I was like, I'm never going to leave this job.
00:13:11:05 - 00:13:18:02
Amanda Monnier
And lo and behold, that wasn't the case. But yeah, it was very, very I learned so much during that career.
00:13:18:20 - 00:13:36:00
Wayne Mulder
Okay, Now, did you I don't honestly know. So it was in California, so probation works a little differently out there. So is it certified because you mentioned like firing gun and so forth. So are you guys armed and you are then assigned individuals who are on probation? Is that how that works or.
00:13:37:00 - 00:14:12:15
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, So we had different so we didn't go through like the post Academy or anything. It was kind of segmented training. So we had our own academy that was, if I recall, six weeks, I believe, and then we had a firearms training. I believe that one was about a week. We had our, our, our, our ATON training. So it was all definitely like it was a lot of in-house, but also not so they pieced it instead of having like one six month academy that, you know, most of like the officers here in, like at the police departments go through, we just had like our in-house training.
00:14:12:15 - 00:14:34:05
Amanda Monnier
So it was it was definitely different than I had never like I said, I had never shot a gun. I never done any of that. None of like the defensive tactics training. So it was definitely it was it was all new to me. But it became something where I really started to enjoy it. And I learned a lot about just kind of awareness is that you have to have in this sort of space.
00:14:34:05 - 00:14:57:14
Amanda Monnier
So it was definitely interesting process in the training portion, which I it was actually started training once I started. So it wasn't like prior to so it was even though I look back on it, I'm like, we need like an audio program. I remember it was like my first week on the job and I'm like going into houses and not armed at that time.
00:14:57:14 - 00:15:19:10
Amanda Monnier
And it was just like, so it probably was not Looking back, I know it wasn't a good way that they kind of funneled that out. But to answer your question about the people. So yeah, we would have a caseload depending on the assignment. So probation officers actually are part of the pretrial process. So the writing, the pre-sentence investigation and this is in California, I don't know if it's different.
00:15:19:18 - 00:15:43:19
Amanda Monnier
I'm sure there's maybe differences and little nuances throughout the country, but they would write the pre-sentence investigation and a recommendation. And if it was if the person was to go to CCR or whatever it was that was all part of probation, and then they would have we would do pretrial supervision and then we would have, if the person was placed onto probation, that we would do that piece of the supervision.
00:15:43:19 - 00:16:08:18
Amanda Monnier
And so actually, my entire career, I was doing that supervision piece. So I worked with any defendant anywhere from domestic violence to, you know, felony mixed bag of stuff. I worked with the homeless population out of a local police department for two years. That was very interesting, very interesting stories there. And yeah, it was just kind of dependent on what they needed.
00:16:08:18 - 00:16:25:02
Amanda Monnier
But they would they would assign us to different caseload. So we would be going into houses. We were doing DUI, we had a DUI team and that sort of thing. So it was very well encompassed of the different kind of categories we had for the supervision piece of it.
00:16:25:14 - 00:16:29:03
Wayne Mulder
Interesting. That is crazy. There wasn't an FTO program.
00:16:29:05 - 00:16:29:16
Amanda Monnier
No.
00:16:31:04 - 00:16:32:17
Wayne Mulder
That was absolutely insane.
00:16:32:18 - 00:16:34:15
Amanda Monnier
Oh, no, no. In standards here.
00:16:36:01 - 00:16:53:05
Wayne Mulder
Wow. So you mentioned doing the homeless ness. So these are people experiencing homelessness who are also on probation. So then you guys are going out in teams. What was that like? Because you've mentioned a couple of times that it was an interesting to say the least.
00:16:53:17 - 00:17:15:08
Amanda Monnier
It was. Yes. So actually my partner for that whole caseload became one of my best friends. So I was like, at least I got you out of the deal. But it was definitely a assignment that was very, very challenging for me. And I was so burned out. That was one assignment before I decided it was time for me to move on and do something different.
00:17:15:19 - 00:17:36:09
Amanda Monnier
But it was basically I had I think when I got the caseload, it was near like 150 people on my caseload. And I always like kind of joked around. I was like, it's like a frickin Easter egg hunt around here because you get a caseload of people and they're homeless, so they have no address. You have to just go out to all the different camps in in California are homeless, homeless.
00:17:36:09 - 00:18:00:00
Amanda Monnier
The homeless issue is is an epidemic around here because of all I mean you can get into all the reasons why and or my thoughts on that, but I think I don't have to go there. So yeah, we would have to just go out to different camps and do the supervision on basically just like hoping that we'd find the people and then they would have to come into a local train station and check in with me once a week.
00:18:00:09 - 00:18:19:19
Amanda Monnier
And the things that would happen at that train station because people would be coming in and they're high or, you know, I mean, there's just the middle. It's like, is it today? Is it the is it the mouth of the mental health today? You know, just kind of one of those things where the mental health piece was just such a issue for these individuals.
00:18:19:19 - 00:18:41:05
Amanda Monnier
And so we actually even had a social worker on our team. So there was like a big team of us that would would you know, obviously we tried to get people in to treatment. But as you know, people a lot of these folks don't want treatment. So it's just kind of that balancing act of community safety. And is this person going to create like ten calls for service if we don't just take them in right now?
00:18:41:05 - 00:19:05:18
Amanda Monnier
So it was just a very interesting role and assignment that I got to play. But towards the end of that, I was like, Oh my gosh, I can't do this anymore because it's it's very exhausting. Those that that population just has a lot of unresolved trauma and they're just a lot of them don't even want the they the ones that I worked with like they didn't even want the treatment or the help and the methods that we had available to us.
00:19:06:06 - 00:19:24:22
Wayne Mulder
Yeah. No, you're and that we see this firsthand. Obviously, Florida is another state where the weather is temperate and it's a large issue. And the area where I serve and I'm sure it is across the state and you hit the nail on the head with a few different of the things that you mentioned that people don't even think about because it's one thing.
00:19:24:22 - 00:19:41:13
Wayne Mulder
So like, let's say you have a behavioral health unit and you're trying to offer resources to these people, you've got to find them. And like you said, they don't always stay. Some of them will stay, you know, in one primary camp or have one primary area where they feel safe. So they'll go back there. But a lot of times that's not the case.
00:19:41:13 - 00:20:02:12
Wayne Mulder
So they could be in this county or that county. And then that you get into all these jurisdictional issues. And then the other problem is, is right now we have such an epidemic when it comes to the opioids and so forth. We're trying to help those that are overdosing. So if you have people in these camps that are have overdosed and you're trying to reach out to them to offer services again, you can't find them.
00:20:02:12 - 00:20:22:08
Wayne Mulder
You've got to have some sort of way to contact them after the fact to get them engaged in services. Yeah, it becomes this huge thing. You don't have to go very far down this road if you don't want to. But I would curious to I would be curious to hear your thoughts on the why which you said, which you mentioned as to why it is such an epidemic out there, because I asked myself the same questions here as well.
00:20:23:04 - 00:20:54:06
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, absolutely. I'm an open book with all this, all this stuff. And I would say it's like it's just in my humble opinion and based on actually being in it. So I think there's a multitude of reasons. I think there are actually agendas in California that are purposefully pushing this because why would we be giving clean needles and in these sorts of things, why would we be kind of creating this sentiment that it's it's okay for people to be doing these sorts of things rather than funneling the funds into things that truly actually help people get back on their feet.
00:20:54:13 - 00:21:18:01
Amanda Monnier
So I think there's a lot of and I mean, it can come from either party, but I think there's a lot of legislation and things that are making it okay. For example, you know, there were points where I would find dope on people and it's like, well, what's the point of me even writing this up? This person has I had one guy who had I want to see it was 12 or 13 open.
00:21:18:06 - 00:21:37:14
Amanda Monnier
She had like 12 or 13 warrants and they were all for health and safety code violations around possession of methamphetamine. And I was like, Why would I waste my time? Because if I take her into the jail, the jail is just going to kick her. So there were a lot of things going on, too, where it was like, well, what's the point to even hook this person?
00:21:37:20 - 00:21:46:19
Amanda Monnier
Because literally they're going to get back out before the ink dries on my report and then like they're going to just have 14 warrants that I now have to clear. So.
00:21:47:01 - 00:21:47:06
Wayne Mulder
Right.
00:21:47:10 - 00:22:12:09
Amanda Monnier
It is just it's like, why don't we just leave the warrant open in case they create a call for service and we really need to take them later. So there were these sorts of kind of nuances around crafty ways that we would address these things. But I think overall, you know, we have the issue of the, you know, again, the legislation in California and I think it was 47 that did this in California, which reduced all these things to misdemeanors.
00:22:12:17 - 00:22:35:16
Amanda Monnier
Whereas, you know, it just there's no I'm not saying that there you know, that we should necessarily hook everybody who has a little dope on them. But at the same time, it's like there's no ID half the time, even with the homeless people, they would they didn't care about going to jail. It was like a vacation. So I think that the second issue is the the treatment programs and the ineffectiveness of the treatment programs.
00:22:35:16 - 00:22:56:11
Amanda Monnier
I actually part of the reason I left law enforcement and probation is like morally and ethically, I was like like, I'll give an example. I had this was right before I left. I had a very short stint in the juvenile unit, and I was I came over with a court order. I know it was it was a juvenile placement and I had to drive this.
00:22:57:03 - 00:23:16:22
Amanda Monnier
I think she was 15 or something to the Bay Area, which is 2 hours from where we were, and take her to this home, if you will. I'll do air quotes because I just knew I walked in and I was like, This is not the vibe, this is not the answer. And she ran off and it was like the sex trafficking stuff and so I was like, this this isn't working.
00:23:16:22 - 00:23:47:10
Amanda Monnier
There's something broken here with this system. And I actually I felt somewhat responsible because I was ordered to take her there and I left her there and then she ran off and ended up, you know, and this is something she had been doing prior. But my point here is, is that the treatment programs that we were directed to order people into and that was part of the responsibility, is making sure people were doing showing up to their their outpatient or maybe they're an inpatient or whatever sort of treatment.
00:23:47:22 - 00:24:01:05
Amanda Monnier
I can't remember on one hand, people where I'm like, Oh yeah, they can't successfully completed and everything's great now. So I think it's a multitude of things. But those are the two main things that kind of come up for me.
00:24:01:23 - 00:24:40:17
Wayne Mulder
Okay, No, those are both powerful and they're both striking home with exactly conversations I've had in the last week. In fact, I just had a conversation. I was involved in something yesterday. I can't go into a lot of details on it, but the second story that you offered there with the young lady who is the juvenile, and it is so frustrating because the system really fails them on every level in fact, in some cases, the best you can hope for is that they get arrested and for like a juvenile in Florida, that's 21 days because that's the closest you can get them to treatment, which is sadly inadequate and just perpetuates the problem.
00:24:40:17 - 00:25:04:04
Wayne Mulder
And like you said, you end up with these human trafficking issues and then there's all these rules. I don't know how far I can go into that, but essentially there's rules that people don't understand as far as the limitations when it comes to keeping them involved in these programs. And because they're, you know, like when you're talking a juvenile, maybe something like they need their phone or whatever, some of that stuff is actually mandated.
00:25:04:10 - 00:25:18:23
Wayne Mulder
And so it limits your ability to do anything. So from here, I be curious. And so this is kind of why you segway two out of doing the probation. So what specifically brought you into what you're doing now or what what did you do next?
00:25:19:13 - 00:25:42:04
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, there was a couple things that happened. There was just a one point where I just noticed I was like, I'm just so burnt out. I'm so I'm like literally dragging my body through. Like I was the type of person that would work all the overtime. And I, you know, I just I worked very hard and I noticed that I was getting cynical, like, oh my gosh, I'm six years in and I'm already feeling like kind of burnt out and cynical.
00:25:42:08 - 00:26:10:20
Amanda Monnier
This is not how I choose to live. And so I the part of me knew that there was a better way and that there was some answers as to, you know, this trauma that I was seeing expressed in people constantly, these painful emotions and these these painful patterns. I would see, you know, in these kids and in just a lot of the people that I worked with, especially I noticed it a lot when I was in the DUI unit, because these are like your everyday average doing air quotes.
00:26:10:20 - 00:26:51:21
Amanda Monnier
The average American who just like jail, is not even a deterrent to stop using alcohol to escape from the reality that you've created. And so I was just determine to figure out what I could do to be a part of the solution rather than just complaining about it all the time. And so this led me to what I'm doing now, which is relation in relation to like the healing work, the holistic healing stuff and releasing these trauma in these patterns at that root, because that's what's happening, especially with, you know, we see it, we can use the children, for example, it's like they're just expressing like this deeply rooted trauma.
00:26:51:23 - 00:27:20:13
Amanda Monnier
And so when we're just trying to go at it from a very surface level of like, you know, what is it like the carrot and the stick approach, you're like, don't do that, or else it doesn't often work. And we've seen this and that's why we're seeing this on such a large scale with the rates of crime and the recidivism, because again, going back to what I noticed with with people, the recidivism rates like or even just the re-offending when we didn't even take them back to jail.
00:27:20:13 - 00:27:41:24
Amanda Monnier
But, you know, them violating probation. I don't remember having many people who didn't do that. Right, because these patterns and these traumas, they they run deep and they don't just go away by saying, you know, go away or I'm just going to drink a bottle of booze and you avoid it for a moment. That stuff's still going to be there.
00:27:41:24 - 00:28:10:08
Amanda Monnier
So I was just determined to figure out how to support people with this. So my my specialty is working with these emotional patterns in these traumas and helping people release these things, because it goes down to a very like, you know, even the nervous system and how our nervous system responds, how our body responds, you know, even down to there were times when I'd be in, you know, I mentioned that I had never shot a gun.
00:28:10:08 - 00:28:35:16
Amanda Monnier
Like I really had to focus on my breathing because it was something that was just my system wasn't familiar with it. So when we're talking about these emotional patterns and these traumas that happen, oftentimes if we take it kind of back, they can come from a variety of different places. Maybe they're passed down ancestrally from our parents. I think we can both agree that we've seen families, you know, in the system.
00:28:35:22 - 00:28:49:15
Amanda Monnier
And I actually had some times where we'd have multiple people in a house where we'd get like a crew of officers because we're like, Oh, we got five people in this house. We may as well go to this, go to this house so that we can, you know, just shoot fish in a barrel here.
00:28:49:15 - 00:28:52:12
Wayne Mulder
Right now. It absolutely happens.
00:28:52:23 - 00:29:31:05
Amanda Monnier
And that does illustrate how this stuff gets passed down. And then that's not even to mention childhood wounding when a child is even in their mother's womb to seven. There's a bunch of research and things around the unconscious and how we get programed because of our brainwave state, we're functioning in that highly suggestible brainwave state. So we're soaking everything in from our surroundings, from our caregivers, and then it continues to get expressed, especially if it's like unprocessed trauma because it's trying to be expressed, but it's not we're not getting to it from a place where we can actually neutralize it.
00:29:31:05 - 00:29:49:24
Amanda Monnier
And that's the beauty of this type of work is what we're doing is we're neutralizing the charge of it, right? So, you know, even in terms of like we can speak of it as like, you know, PTSD and things of that nature, we want to neutralize that that trigger and that charge. So we're not going into that fight, fight or flight response.
00:29:50:22 - 00:30:12:20
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, no, that's I was just well, you and I were talking off line. I was just having a conversation with somebody else. And one of the things we went into is the whole East-West, the adverse childhood experiences and how those can a lot of times become indicators or become a baseline of the potential for some of these traumas.
00:30:12:20 - 00:30:33:00
Wayne Mulder
And how it can possibly exhibit is something like PTSD or something like that down the line. We've talked a little bit of it, but I'd be curious on your thoughts on two things at this point. Let's go down this road first. So the because there's kind of two things as I see it, right? So we can go down the road because I'm sure there's people listening to this that are in law enforcement.
00:30:33:09 - 00:30:51:15
Wayne Mulder
And so far our conversation has been around kind of the public and what we do out on the street. And I'm sure already there's a disconnect where people are like, well, that doesn't affect me. That's not my situation I'm not struggling with. And thank God, but maybe not struggling with some sort of addiction, at least not like an opioid addiction or something like that.
00:30:52:00 - 00:31:15:13
Wayne Mulder
So let's first go down that road. Is there anything when you talk about how the system has failed, what can the system do? Because we have an issue, right, where everything that the system is set up in such a way that it doesn't do a whole lot in general. Right. Everything kind of grinds very slowly. So what can you do when you talk something like is it a cultural response?
00:31:15:13 - 00:31:23:20
Wayne Mulder
Is it like, what do you do when you talk about changing the overall system to the end user, like when you talk about homelessness or juveniles, etc.?
00:31:24:12 - 00:31:41:18
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, I think for me it's part of kind of what I was mentioning. I didn't like the way it didn't feel good to me, the way that the system was set up. I saw it as broken and so it's like I'm making a choice instead of complaining about it, to really being a part of the change first within myself.
00:31:41:18 - 00:32:04:04
Amanda Monnier
Right. And really understanding these things. And then offering that to people who are ready to receive it. So it's like if we don't like the way that something is, then we can either complain about it and take a backseat victim role or we can come up with new paradigms and new creative ways to change it. Because I think that at the end of the day, we can all agree we want to have a harmonious experience.
00:32:04:04 - 00:32:22:22
Amanda Monnier
We do want to be on the streets like fighting with people or, you know, getting poked by needles or, you know, whatever it might be. You want any of that going on. We there's a certain place where I think that there are certain structures that are absolutely needed, especially with where we are kind of in the evolution of humanity.
00:32:22:22 - 00:32:46:00
Amanda Monnier
But I think that as we continue to learn ways in which we don't have to hold on to this stuff and have it be unexpressed and then have it come out as violence or have it come out as what whatever it might be. Right? We can really utilize new ways that are a lot of them are now even just getting back by more and more research and more and more science.
00:32:46:00 - 00:33:08:04
Amanda Monnier
And then also at the very down to earth level, like people are just feeling better. And I can speak for myself because I you know, if you had met me ten years ago, I was not in the same place that I am now. And so it's I feel like a willingness to actually take some action, too. It's it's a combination of like that inner work and then taking that action if you do want to create something different here.
00:33:08:22 - 00:33:32:10
Wayne Mulder
Yeah, no, I think that's great. So taking that to the societal level, then if I'm hearing you correctly, the goal would be that as we educate, as we have more people and not necessarily you, but people like you who are like, Hey, this is the this is the answer, and then take that back to the system and go into a lot of these counseling type roles and so forth.
00:33:32:10 - 00:33:43:08
Wayne Mulder
So that rather than doing what we've always done, we now introduce some of these deeper level ways of dealing with trauma. Would that be in my in my wording that correctly?
00:33:43:16 - 00:34:02:04
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, I really like that. And one thing kind of a metaphor I give like I think therapy definitely has its place, but I've you know, I've had therapy sessions before, so what I can speak to is the way like metaphorically speaking, like if we just rip the Band-Aid off, let's activate the story. We can talk about what's going on or what's wrong.
00:34:02:08 - 00:34:16:16
Amanda Monnier
And then it's like, okay, cool, glad we could talk about it, but I see you next week. But what I'm talking about is, okay, we rip the Band-Aid off. Well, let's get to the root of what's causing this, and let's actually just release that from your body right now so we don't have to keep recreating it. We don't have to keep talking about it.
00:34:16:16 - 00:34:35:13
Amanda Monnier
We don't have to keep living in that reality. But it's something that is new to a lot of people because we've not been taught really connect with ourselves in this way, first and foremost, and what true healing really means. And then it oftentimes even comes out in the physical body. And that to me is what disease is it?
00:34:35:13 - 00:35:15:11
Amanda Monnier
Right? It's the body just expressing these low vibrational experiences that have been unprocessed. And now it's coming out as different ailments because the body's like, excuse me, like, can we get your attention, please? Yes. Because it's, you know, let's say, for example, if we go back to like that PTSD example, like we have a traumatic experience and we get flooded with all the different hormones involved from that situation, our cortisol is all off the charts and our nervous system is just like probably if we're talking to officers in fight mode like we're going in and then it's like after that, because that's not like, that's not like a normal day, right?
00:35:15:11 - 00:35:44:03
Amanda Monnier
Like most law enforcement officers, it's like you're dealing with the 1% of the 1% that can seem to understand it. And you don't know what you're going into when you get that call. Right? You know, a little bit. You don't know everything. And so it's like after that, then you're just kind of like the body's just had this flood of all this stuff going on and let's say there was some trauma or, you know, maybe there was like, you know, had to go hands on or there was a shooting or whatever it is now that is, you know, imprinted as a memory.
00:35:44:03 - 00:36:07:20
Amanda Monnier
Right? It's that trauma is in the energy field. So a lot of people experience like the PTSD. It's actually rather easy than we think it is to just clear that imprinting out of the memory, the energy field. So you don't so it's it's a neutral memory, right? It's not not Cory, you're not recreating you're not feeling it. It's running and running subtly in the background, if that makes sense.
00:36:08:01 - 00:36:15:03
Wayne Mulder
It does. And then at that following that logic, then it wouldn't be a triggering memory either anymore, correct?
00:36:15:16 - 00:36:36:03
Amanda Monnier
Correct. Yeah. One of my mentors shared the story around these ancient healers. I think they were like kind of in the shamanic kind of, I guess, energy, if you will. But what they would do is if there was any type of trauma that occurred, it would literally clear it right after the event. So but most of us don't do that, right.
00:36:36:03 - 00:36:58:20
Amanda Monnier
We have this happen. And then sometimes we'll go talk about. But to me, it talking about it just reactivates it like sometimes you get an emotional release from it and it feels good. But I can say the majority of us probably just continue to talk about it and we're still kind of feeling it at that cellular level. I'm talking about getting that harmonization and that neutralizing of that heaviness at a cellular level.
00:36:58:20 - 00:37:00:18
Amanda Monnier
So you're not carrying that around.
00:37:01:21 - 00:37:21:21
Wayne Mulder
Very good. Something you hit on there that I think, in fact, I don't. Shay Sparks is a friend of mine. I'm not sure if that's how you found me or not, but she was on my program and she she actually does a lot of similar things to what you're talking about. And we had this whole conversation around what you call disease or disease.
00:37:22:04 - 00:37:40:08
Wayne Mulder
And really, it's something you do see with law enforcement, myself included. You see it so often when we get into like gastrointestinal type illnesses, all these different types of illnesses. So can you go a little deeper on that? Because I really think that hits home for a lot of listeners as we kind of segue into specifically for law enforcement.
00:37:40:20 - 00:37:55:10
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, absolutely. So and I'll just preface this. I don't claim to be a medical professional. I'm just talking about energy and how like this expresses itself in the physical body. So I'm not giving any diagnosis recommendations, all the things you know, all the things you got to say.
00:37:55:10 - 00:37:56:08
Wayne Mulder
All the things, yes.
00:37:56:08 - 00:38:14:10
Amanda Monnier
Oh, things, disclaimers. Yes. So absolutely. And I think that I'm just kind of feeling into where to where to start here, because I was sensing a lot, too, with the heart as well, because I think that I lead to a lot of officers that I worked with, had a lot of like heart issues and blood pressure issues.
00:38:14:17 - 00:38:34:23
Wayne Mulder
So much so that like in the state of Florida, there actually is a heart bill that allows you to retire earlier, provided you didn't have heart issues before you came in the career. Now, some of us actually have. I was born with heart issues, so I wasn't qualified. But yeah, it actually is a thing for those who didn't have heart issues before their career.
00:38:34:23 - 00:38:37:00
Wayne Mulder
It was specifically codified in state law.
00:38:37:16 - 00:39:05:15
Amanda Monnier
Yeah. And then you mentioned like the intestinal stuff as well. So this, you know, each of each even our organs produce different emotions as well. So if you're in a heightened event, you know, you're going to release certain emotions and certain chemicals in the body. And it's going to, you know, flood the body once again. So I can give an example, too, of someone who I, I is actually family.
00:39:05:15 - 00:39:34:16
Amanda Monnier
I won't disclose any crazy details, but but this person has had a lot of stuff with, you know, heartbreak. And so and I know that this is tied and has had to have many open heart surgeries and so is it off. I there's no I don't believe there's any coincidence here. So when we're talking about, you know, even down to you have to go to a coroner's call, that's not something that people have to see on a regular basis.
00:39:34:16 - 00:40:09:00
Amanda Monnier
But oftentimes two. And let me know if you can relate to this. It's like we make light of it so that we can get through it, right. We joke around about it or, you know, we have to like, see the light in the darkest of situations. But it's not when we're talking, taking it down to like a foundational level of everything is energy going into like a scene where there's a dead body that's dense as hell, that is dense, instant, and especially, you know, if there was trauma involved in it, like if it wasn't just kind of like a natural death, then you have all of that and you're feeling that, right.
00:40:09:05 - 00:40:26:20
Amanda Monnier
And as humans, we feel these things in our body and we can kid ourselves and say that it doesn't affect us. And that's what a lot of us do, myself included. There were times where I put on that hard shell, right? Because that's sometimes what you have to do in order to be able to go into a certain situation.
00:40:27:02 - 00:40:51:19
Amanda Monnier
But then it's like, okay, one after that, like, are you really okay? And have you actually processed the emotions that came up from the specific situation that you just went into? Like, we can say that maybe we weren't feeling scared or Terry, but I know every time, even when I like got really good at clearing houses, any time I had to pull my gun and clear a house, there was a certain level of like adrenaline I felt and sometimes a bit of fear.
00:40:51:19 - 00:41:14:18
Amanda Monnier
And I feel like it's a natural thing. But then it's like after we remove ourselves from that very elevated situation, especially these situations that again, the majority of the population experience these on a regular daily basis, when we pull ourselves out of that, it's like, okay, what feelings did that bring up in me? What is it like? Can we check in with the body?
00:41:14:18 - 00:41:37:21
Amanda Monnier
Can we see like, how am I feeling? Do I need a day off? Do I need to, like, you know, decompress? And what wait, what ways do I do that where I'm actually able to allow my nervous system to relax? And do I need to release some of these emotions? Because in kind of circling back to your question, I truly believe the reason for the heart issues and the gut issues, it's suppression, right?
00:41:38:03 - 00:42:03:22
Amanda Monnier
And that's simply what depression is. It's suppressed emotions and then we again, we continue to protect ourselves because that's the job of our unconscious and our ego is to protect ourselves at all costs, to protect us. And so when we go into these modes and then we don't necessarily compartmentalize in a way that we're able to process what happen and digest what happens, it's like we didn't digest what happened.
00:42:03:22 - 00:42:33:00
Amanda Monnier
So now it's affecting our digestion. There's no coincidence. And so it doesn't mean you have to go back and relive those things. But it also an acknowledgment and a releasing and moving through the emotions. That emotion doesn't become stuck in your body. So I'll give another quick example, because if we're talking about energy and vibration and there's a really good book on this, it's kind of a kind of scientific issue called Power versus Force by David Hawkins.
00:42:33:12 - 00:42:52:14
Amanda Monnier
And he talks about the scale of emotion. So like, for example, fear, shame, guilt unworthy. Those are really low frequency emotions. We can all tune into those and it's kind of like we don't really want to feel those, right? Right. Versus like love and joy and those emotions Like, we like that. I think most of us don't agree.
00:42:52:14 - 00:43:13:01
Amanda Monnier
We'd rather feel joy, love versus feeling shame, guilt, you know? So when we have some low frequency emotions trapped in our body, it's going to cause problems with our physical body. And then we start seeing those as symptoms in the body. If we don't pay attention and we don't address it and we don't move through whatever we're competing to move through.
00:43:13:10 - 00:43:34:22
Wayne Mulder
So I love it. And that's something, like I said, my friend had kind for me and heard had a couple of conversations along these lines. Let me ask you, though, when you talk about this releasing and moving through this, I think one of the first kickbacks you get is that people start thinking clinically again, right? They think it's them and someone in a white coat, they got to sit down with.
00:43:34:22 - 00:43:42:18
Wayne Mulder
So what does that look like? Is that something people can do on their own? Is that something that requires an expert? What does that look like? And is it or is it a mix of both?
00:43:43:11 - 00:44:01:00
Amanda Monnier
I feel like it's a mix of both. I feel like it's getting real with yourself on what is right for you. And sometimes I have people that help me move through stuff because sometimes blind spots again, sometimes we don't fully want to see them. We know they're there and we just need a little reflection and a little help.
00:44:01:00 - 00:44:17:11
Amanda Monnier
And then we have that moment where we're like, Oh my gosh, you're so right. So I think it's a mix of both. I think it really getting real with your self on is just something that I'm resisting taking a look at. Is it something I need support with or is it just right for me to just like, okay, this happened and I'm just going to let it go and move on?
00:44:17:20 - 00:44:35:17
Amanda Monnier
So I feel like it just really depends on what it is and it's not one size fits all. That's why I always say like this type of healing work, is it one size fits all? So the way I'm going to approach each client session is different depending on where they're at and what they're needing support with. So to answer your question on can people release the stuff on their own?
00:44:35:17 - 00:44:54:13
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, I truly believe we all have an ability to do this, but it's also learning certain ways that work for you. And if this is super new to you, then, you know, maybe even some of the things I'm saying are kind of like a bit a bit new or a bit foreign, which is totally fine because we're all just kind of starting from where we're at.
00:44:54:13 - 00:45:16:16
Amanda Monnier
And and we're learning as we go on what works for us. So, you know, for example, if I were to work with somebody who was newer to this type of work and they're like, okay, this happened and I'm feeling this is causing issues for me, and I'm noticing that it's still showing up because. These things will then show up on a repeat loop where it's still it's still being held in your body.
00:45:17:07 - 00:45:45:13
Amanda Monnier
And so what we would do because we again, we don't always have to like go back into it, sometimes it's helpful to kind of like replay it out and and work through whatever needs to be worked through. But most of the time it's like, okay, I'm going to choose to let this go, and then I'll guide people through a process on how we I call it recoding the energy field, and we're doing some recoding work on releasing it out because if everything's energy, then we can easily just let it go and we don't have to keep holding onto it.
00:45:45:13 - 00:46:09:17
Amanda Monnier
And oftentimes it's just a willingness and an acknowledgment that it's still there and I work with a it's a field of energy. So we have our conscious mind or unconscious, and we also have a super conscious or you can call it your higher self. And this energy contains all information about like all events you've had all emotions that are holding being held in your body.
00:46:09:17 - 00:46:30:03
Amanda Monnier
And so we can work with this energy to release out these dense pockets of energy or memories or whatever it might be that is causing this to show up in your life in a way that does it feel good to you? Because ultimately we want to be able to really enjoy life and feel good most of the time.
00:46:30:03 - 00:46:31:19
Amanda Monnier
We're always going to have emotions.
00:46:31:19 - 00:46:50:10
Wayne Mulder
But yeah, no, that's that's powerful. And I think the part I really like that are the part that really resonates with me is the fact, like you said, it's different for everybody and you got to kind of start where you're at. But the most important thing I think, then or the logical follow up to that would be do something right.
00:46:50:10 - 00:47:12:06
Wayne Mulder
The answer isn't to ignore it because that's what leads to these physical issues. And so much of what we've been talking about. One of the things you talk a lot about is healthy relationship. As we segue into that, let me start with the question, what does a healthy relationship even look like? And I think this is applicable to a lot of law enforcement and kind of feeds into the other side of the equation when they're off the job.
00:47:13:05 - 00:47:30:05
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, absolutely. The first thing that came to mind, if you go and I don't know if people are going to like the answer to this or not, but first and foremost, it's a relationship with yourself. Do you have a healthy relationship with yourself? What is the narrative going on like that inner talker And we all have like this little voice in our head, right, that we hear.
00:47:30:13 - 00:47:37:23
Amanda Monnier
And what is what is the narrative going on? Are you even kind to yourself? Do you think that is so important?
00:47:37:23 - 00:47:38:24
Wayne Mulder
Amanda Yeah.
00:47:39:22 - 00:47:59:05
Amanda Monnier
Do you do things out of obligation? Do you do things out of people pleasing? Do you do things out of fear? How do you treat yourself? How do you talk to yourself? And it's so foundational because I found that the way I show up in the way that my relationship is with myself is literally indicative of the people in my life, how they treat me.
00:47:59:12 - 00:48:16:22
Amanda Monnier
Because it's like you've probably noticed it where there are certain people. And I'm just going to be completely blunt that you can talk to in a certain way and others you can not talk to in a certain way, right? Because they hold themselves to this high standard where someone else who allows someone to, you know, maybe it's like, Hey, can you do this?
00:48:16:22 - 00:48:36:06
Amanda Monnier
Can you do this? And they're just always like, yes, no problem. It's like it's a thing. We can be a real thing. So for me, it first comes back to that relationship of with your self and taking inventory of, you know, especially for those in law enforcement. Are you nourishing yourself? Are you taking enough time off? What's the ID here?
00:48:36:06 - 00:48:56:22
Amanda Monnier
Because it's like, who are you outside of this? This, you know, this field, this job, this career? Like if everything was stripped away, who are you? And that's why I always, like, chuckle when you meet somebody in their life. Oh, what do you do? It's not like, Oh, who are you? Like, as a person, as a soul? What are the of who you are?
00:48:56:22 - 00:49:18:11
Amanda Monnier
It's always like, what do you do? It's like, look, I think at the deeper level too. And it this ties into relationships. I feel that we are craving that deeper level of human connection. Sometimes we just don't know how because we've been so disconnected from ourselves for far too long. So connecting back in with yourself and getting real with yourself on what is it that you deeply desire.
00:49:18:12 - 00:49:39:09
Amanda Monnier
Like, let's see, you had a magic wand, everything was wiped off. Money was no object. What? What would you be doing? Who would you be? How would you be showing up every day? And you can really kind of start to take inventory with, well, why aren't you showing up in that way right now? What kind of stories you have running telling you that you have to do X, Y, Z in order to be good enough or in order to make it in life.
00:49:39:18 - 00:50:00:18
Amanda Monnier
You know, there was a lot of things I had to deal with around my own ego when I left law enforcement because I was like, there's a certain level of like respect that we received. Sometimes there's a certain level of disrespect, but there's also a certain level of respect. And once I left, I had done a really short stint at my family's company and it was like I was like, Oh my gosh.
00:50:00:18 - 00:50:21:21
Amanda Monnier
Like, I feel like the level of respect I received, like, went from 100 to 0. And it was so interesting for me to really kind of rebuild myself up and become and embody that confidence and the way that I treat myself in the way that I show up and also what I say yes to and what I say no to.
00:50:21:21 - 00:50:42:24
Amanda Monnier
Like anywhere we have that like leaky energy in our life to where we're doing things again out of shoulds, obligations or pressure. Oftentimes that's again, that'll wear on your body too. So first and foremost with your self. And if you want, we can circle into relationships like family and, you know, with spouses and things as well, if you feel that would be beneficial.
00:50:42:24 - 00:50:44:07
Amanda Monnier
But that was the first thing that popped up.
00:50:44:22 - 00:51:01:00
Wayne Mulder
Well, I do think it'd be beneficial, but I do love what you're saying because I think I mean, it's resonating even with me, and I'm sure it will with the listeners as well, because it's huge. In fact, I just posted something on social media this week about this, and that was the whole premise of the real was who are you?
00:51:01:00 - 00:51:19:20
Wayne Mulder
Because, you know, like, I'm weighing in. I serve in law enforcement right now, but that's not who I am. And if, God forbid, something happens tomorrow and I'm not in this career anymore. But you're right, for all the negative out there that we hear or we see or people deal with, with people that see the badge, see the uniform, and there's this negative reaction.
00:51:20:00 - 00:51:37:14
Wayne Mulder
There's a fair amount of positive reaction, especially in certain areas, like I'm very blessed to be in an area where, you know, you may get free coffee and free dinner out of you know, that's just the nature of the people. They love what you do and they love what you represent and they want to find ways to show that.
00:51:37:14 - 00:51:58:20
Wayne Mulder
And then I can just imagine that once you step away from this career and you're left with just yourself, if you're not familiar or sure on who you are, you're going to struggle. Before we kind of segue into the other relationships and so forth, does is this in line with I love the phrase you use, activate your inner badassery?
00:51:59:18 - 00:52:01:23
Wayne Mulder
Is this in line with that thinking, then?
00:52:02:12 - 00:52:34:23
Amanda Monnier
I Yes, because I'll get you know, I'll throw in a little kind of my my esoteric energy here, but I feel like we all are templated for something unique. We're not all the same. It's like down to our fingerprints are different. So I feel that each of our souls and each of our essences are 100% difference. So if we're trying to be someone else, if we're trying to fit into some sort of mold because we've been told we had to be at a job, be it a relationship, whatever it doesn't work out.
00:52:34:23 - 00:52:53:06
Amanda Monnier
And and oftentimes it's like it doesn't work out on the external. But then we feel it at that deep soul level, that deep, deep level. And so I feel like we all because again, yeah, like going back to me, leaving law enforcement, it was like it took the wind out of my sails for a moment. There were moments where I was like, Did I just mess this up royally?
00:52:53:12 - 00:53:17:05
Amanda Monnier
What did I do? I, I sold my home, I quit my job. It's like it's like a dumb and dumber appetizer going off. Like, what's happening is I just had to trust that I was following that inner knowing and and really had to connect back in with that comfort this and bring that out in my own unique way because no one else was going to do it for me.
00:53:17:05 - 00:53:42:13
Amanda Monnier
And every time I tried to search outside myself, it didn't work out so well. So I just feel like it's just I feel it's available to each of us. I have finally arrived at a place of such peace to where I'm like, Okay, I get it. It all makes sense because I'm not fighting myself anymore and we can all connect back in with ourselves and really take inventory of, again, the stories.
00:53:42:13 - 00:53:59:17
Amanda Monnier
Like, are they even yours? Because oftentimes they're just passed down or they're just societal obligations that we've been told that we have to subscribe to. And I just don't play by those rules. So I don't know, maybe maybe I'm maybe it feels good. So it's working out now.
00:53:59:22 - 00:54:23:04
Wayne Mulder
Well, there you go. That's an important part and part of it. So since we're getting a little short on time, let me go down this road instead. What then would you say to the person that this is resonating with? Right. The person who heard the relationships and heard your answer and they're like, Yeah, I see this and I know this about myself and I have this negative self-talk and, you know, all these things, right?
00:54:23:04 - 00:54:37:08
Wayne Mulder
And we have all done it and I myself have probably the guiltiest among us. But that being said, what would be those first one or two actionable steps that you would say to that person? Like what? What do they do next? If they're listening to this podcast and hearing what we're saying?
00:54:37:23 - 00:54:59:02
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, I'll give a really practical thing that you can do and it will be two part. So I would recommend really kind of tuning in to what it is you actually choose and what you desire. So oftentimes that's why we tend to get the average of everything is because we're just kind of in that unconscious autopilot rather than being that creator.
00:54:59:02 - 00:55:22:19
Amanda Monnier
So if again, going back to my question, like if you could just make it all up here and I'm talking about that feeling of that, how do you want to feel like if you're identifying right now, I'm not I things haven't been going that well. I'm feeling kind of tired depleted fill in the blank, whatever it is. Well, on the flipside of that, what how is it that you choose to feel like?
00:55:22:20 - 00:55:43:04
Amanda Monnier
What is the end result? Like if if you were to say, I choose the end result of stepping into a life I love and like really expressing my, my, my true self, like closing your eyes and just seeing if you can kind of feel into what that would feel like and maybe what that would look like and allowing that to come through and then writing some things down as well.
00:55:43:12 - 00:56:16:20
Amanda Monnier
But there's such a power in, in tapping into that energy of if it's already happened now and then on the secondary aspect of it, then it's like, okay, where's the resistance to that? And then we can start to take a bit of an inventory around like, okay, is it something where I'm feeling this sort of unworthiness and I'm kind of feeling it in my stomach, you know, bringing some awareness to those things and we can start to kind of pull the threads on where is like the the gap here is the gap here from this is what I'm choosing and I know that this is possible.
00:56:16:20 - 00:56:34:10
Amanda Monnier
I just don't know how to get from A to B and so really getting clear on what it is that you have been kind of taking on as a sort of identity structure that is causing or maybe even played a sort of role or this character that isn't you and never was. You just did it for a while.
00:56:34:16 - 00:57:01:07
Amanda Monnier
That's okay. But wherever you're at right now is perfect. Like there, you know, you're not broken. You don't need to be fixed. But it's about like if you want to create in a conscious way, what does that look like? Because we haven't been taught this stuff. We're not taught that you're a creator of your own reality and that you can either create an unconscious autopilot and just get an average of everything, or you can actually really tap into whatever it is it's inside of you that wants to come out and just unleash it.
00:57:01:17 - 00:57:29:18
Amanda Monnier
It's just that it sounds like, you know, it sounds like it's as simple as it sounds, but then sometimes when you choose it, other things have to fall apart in order for that to be able to show up. So it's like when I chose some of these things, certain relationships had to resonate away because those relationships were not in alignment with what I was choosing for how I choose to show up as a friend and for what choose to have as far as my friendships.
00:57:30:00 - 00:57:47:07
Amanda Monnier
And so actually that happened lately. They were like a relationship. I released a relationship with a boyfriend and multiple friendships because it just wasn't in alignment with, first of all, how I show up as a friend and how I choose to have my friend show up. So there could be sorts of things like that too, where you're saying yes to things that are not.
00:57:47:08 - 00:58:12:09
Amanda Monnier
So I would recommend taking inventory on that as well. And I'll give one little tip on how you can because, you know, you can work with an energy healing practitioner like myself if you feel called, but a quick way that you can kind of do it in the moment. Like let's say you've just had a experience and you felt this surge of heaviness in your body and and you're noticing it.
00:58:12:09 - 00:58:30:21
Amanda Monnier
So you can pause in the moment and you can start to breathe in through your nose to a slow like five or six second count and breathing out through the mouth with an intention to let it go, with an intention to have that release from your body and just asking your body. Our intention is so powerful. Intention is just game changing.
00:58:30:21 - 00:58:49:12
Amanda Monnier
So once we have that intention, we can really work through some of those things. And if it feels like it's really deeply rooted, then you can, you know, if you feel guided to seek support, then you can get some support for a bit deeper level work. But the breath is so powerful because it allows this pause rather than it allowing the story to continue replaying and run away with us.
00:58:49:24 - 00:59:04:09
Amanda Monnier
It pauses in the moment and it presents us in the moment because most of us are just and I've been there to where it's like I didn't want to look at it because it felt too painful. And so I would just go about my day to day. But when I notice something coming up, it's like, okay, can I just sit with it for a minute?
00:59:04:09 - 00:59:15:00
Amanda Monnier
Because maybe it's there to support me. Maybe my body was trying to save me, support me, whatever it is, just trying to just be with it for a moment rather than running from it.
00:59:15:10 - 00:59:42:21
Wayne Mulder
Yeah. No, that's powerful. And I think that really will help, especially law enforcement, because like you said, so often we know there's an issue and we choose the path, just avoiding it, thinking it's never going to show up again. And like I said, I just had a guest that we spoke this morning and he told the downside, which the listeners will probably hear that podcast right before this one, where he told the eventual downside of what happens when we ignore it and what that can kind of show itself as.
00:59:43:23 - 00:59:56:01
Wayne Mulder
So a couple last things had a couple of last questions here. I don't wanna take up too much of your time, but let's talk a little bit about your podcasts. New Air, New Earth Visionaries. Tell us a little bit about it. What can the listeners expect?
00:59:56:12 - 01:00:18:16
Amanda Monnier
I love that. Yeah, it's called newer visionaries. I actually started it at the beginning of the year and it's it's really just about having conversations kind of like we're having now, but just bringing these new paradigms and these new awarenesses. So I have a variety of guests on the show and we had one I think this was a couple of weeks ago that a lot of listeners really resonated with.
01:00:18:16 - 01:00:43:22
Amanda Monnier
It was all about navigating these cycles of grief, intense emotions, because again, we're human, so we're always going to be experiencing emotions that's never going to go away. As much of the healing work that we do, like we're emotional beings. So it's just really about bringing an awareness to new ways of doing things and new ways of being that are that feel more expansive to us so we can really just enjoy being here.
01:00:43:22 - 01:01:03:12
Amanda Monnier
I truly don't believe that life needs to be this tumultuous, like that awful place on this planet. Like, yeah, there's some stuff that goes on here that's not ideal, but really just being a part of of bringing these, these new higher vibrational paradigms to the planet. So that's really the premise and intention, my podcast.
01:01:03:12 - 01:01:22:07
Wayne Mulder
So I love that. And it also speaks to I mean, yes, there's always going to be some negative things maybe in the world around us, but that doesn't mean it has to be us. Like we can live outside of that or find find something deeper within ourselves. My last two questions. My one question I ask everybody who's a guest on the podcast.
01:01:22:07 - 01:01:32:19
Wayne Mulder
We've touched on a lot of things already that probably answer this question, but if you're going to boil it down, what is the one take away the one thing that law enforcement officers can do that's going to make a difference in their personal lives?
01:01:33:06 - 01:01:51:13
Amanda Monnier
That's what I mentioned, the relationship with yourself. I feel like that is the most important thing. At least it's been the most important thing in my life. Just connecting back in with your self and the way that you navigate that relationship with your self and how you show up for yourself and how you treat others, how others treat you.
01:01:51:13 - 01:02:28:19
Amanda Monnier
It's oftentimes that a reflection of what's going on. So just really, really getting clear like this, what's showing up right now is this really choose to be like, is this the most expansive version of myself? And, you know, there's nothing right. Or we're all nobody has it. We weren't given a rulebook for this thing, whatever this thing is, you know, And so we're I don't necessarily think that there's just like it's not black and white and to start to navigate what works for you in the form of just really stepping into that version of yourself that just feels so authentic and so potent and just so true for you because it's just different for each
01:02:28:19 - 01:02:50:10
Amanda Monnier
of us. So I would just recommend, you know, that that, that being the relationship with yourself being first and foremost, and then, you know, a practical thing would be doing, you know, some breath work if you're new to that energy work. Breath is a really cool way to start because it's something that's very kind of more tangible to people sometimes with the energy work kind of you into it a little bit.
01:02:50:10 - 01:02:57:09
Amanda Monnier
But yeah, super, super powerful. And yeah, I would be my those would be my two recommendations.
01:02:57:15 - 01:03:13:17
Wayne Mulder
I think that's wonderful. And yeah, sometimes we'll have to see. Maybe I'll get you back on. I want to go deeper into the breaths thing because that is so important and something I've talked about a few times because I even saw it in myself in dealing with some traumatic events and stuff. What a difference. Just learning to breathe, which you would think would be simple.
01:03:13:17 - 01:03:21:10
Wayne Mulder
But as when the book, you know, we talked about at the very beginning, it's maybe not as simple as we think. What is the best way for people to connect with you?
01:03:21:10 - 01:03:45:15
Amanda Monnier
Amanda Yeah, First, I would love to be back on. We could even do a mini Breathwork session. If you feel like your listeners would enjoy something like that, that would be kind of fun. I would love to like a de-stress Breathwork session and yeah, they can find me. My website probably the best place to connect with me, which is Amanda Monster.com, so you can find me on my website.
01:03:45:22 - 01:03:53:13
Amanda Monnier
If you have any questions, feel free to send me an email too. I know sometimes this work is very fresh to people, very new, so I'm happy to answer any questions.
01:03:54:03 - 01:04:07:13
Wayne Mulder
Very good. I'll be sure to link all that up and you're doing a lot of great things, so I do encourage everybody to go to the website which I've linked up so you can spell Monnier correctly, but that will all be on there for them. So Amanda, thank you so much for coming on. I cannot believe this hour has flown by.
01:04:08:04 - 01:04:16:11
Amanda Monnier
Yeah, thank you so much, Wayne. I've had such a good time chatting with you. It's just been so effortless and so flowy. So, so great. And thank you everyone for listening. It's been awesome.
01:04:17:04 - 01:04:17:14
Wayne Mulder
Thanks.
01:04:23:12 - 01:04:44:01
Wayne Mulder
So how was that? I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Amanda. I tell you, it is such a privilege to be able to sit down and bring you these conversations each and every week. The people that I can just sit here and ask them the questions and kind of get into their mindset and I like to try to bring you stuff from all different walks of life, right, in all different backgrounds and so forth.
01:04:44:01 - 01:05:00:22
Wayne Mulder
Because what works for you? What works for me, it's going to be different, right? And I like to get different perspectives and I like to get different ideas. So I hope you're enjoying that. Next week it's going to be completely different. Guest Completely different mindset in some ways. And then there's always a lot of similarities, but something that's actionable for each and every one of us.
01:05:01:07 - 01:05:17:06
Wayne Mulder
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01:05:17:06 - 01:05:22:02
Wayne Mulder
I'll see you next week in the interview room. But in the meantime, I'll see you out there on the blue line.